cost of matrix replacement

Ozzie Kuma · Post by **Ozzie Kuma** » 17 Feb 2012, 10:00

thanks for that citronut,.. just what I wanted to hear after the 123 hours, ripped fingers, stiff neck, broken back I have spent on this damn thing. My other beast is 3 years older than this & has not leaked a drop for the matrix !!! Hope I am lucky again. Still we Ozzies don't get the extremes of Pommie weather, probably helps it to last longer.

Harry1975 · Post by **Harry1975** » 17 Feb 2012, 13:03

im doing mine next week, plus im doing head gasket took the head off yesterday ,and yep the gasket totaly worn out, only the metal rings and outer edges left, i was surpised it had not gone sooner, engine ran fine, just a load of steam .

lexi · Post by **lexi** » 17 Feb 2012, 22:31

Having looked at all this ,is there anything to add for the V6? Not putting my hand up yet mind

addo · Post by **addo** » 29 Apr 2012, 13:42

You can drive with a lot of it removed:

I've even got the whole darned HVAC box out now, and that metal hoop that braces off the fuse bloc. Tempted to plug the radio back in for grins. Wipers are back on for usability.

Only "bugger, bugger, bugger" moments have been finding the Ford style AC inline connector (I don't have the tool and it was Sunday evening) plus losing a 10mm deepwall socket into the subframe's darkest recesses, along with a flanged nut, and two washers. All except one fibrous washer were found...

Post by **CitroJim** » 29 Apr 2012, 14:05

You could start a new trend, driving around like that Adam

Quite a respectable 'kilometerage' you've clocked up there...

addo · Post by **addo** » 29 Apr 2012, 14:12

There is a nest of black ants in the car. They timeshare (depending on season/weather) between that box section the dash studs pass through (in picture) and under the roof rails.

Mr Pyrethrin will be speaking to them soon.

Post by **CitroJim** » 29 Apr 2012, 14:36

addo wrote:There is a nest of black ants in the car. They timeshare (depending on season/weather) between that box section the dash studs pass through (in picture) and under the roof rails.

Mr Pyrethrin will be speaking to them soon.

At least they're not green ants

We had green ants the size of of cats in Darwin..

Not as bad as the tree frogs that used to live in the downpipes on our house .They used the pipes as amplifiers... Gosh it was a noisy place at night...

When we came back to the UK we were deafened by the night-time silence and had trouble sleeping, especially Robyn... I'm pretty sure as she was born into the chorus of tree frogs, crickets and cicadas she missed it even more than we did...

citronut · Post by **citronut** » 29 Apr 2012, 16:27

Harry1975 wrote:im doing mine next week, plus im doing head gasket took the head off yesterday ,and yep the gasket totaly worn out, only the metal rings and outer edges left, i was surpised it had not gone sooner, engine ran fine, just a load of steam .

bit extreme removing the head just to get at the heater pipe connector, well maybe not

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regards malcolm

citronut · Post by **citronut** » 29 Apr 2012, 16:33

addo wrote:You can drive with a lot of it removed:

I've even got the whole darned HVAC box out now, and that metal hoop that braces off the fuse bloc. Tempted to plug the radio back in for grins. Wipers are back on for usability.

Only "bugger, bugger, bugger" moments have been finding the Ford style AC inline connector (I don't have the tool and it was Sunday evening) plus losing a 10mm deepwall socket into the subframe's darkest recesses, along with a flanged nut, and two washers. All except one fibrous washer were found...

id just by a better quality of matrix

rather than leaving all that off for the next time you have to fit another one

regards malcolm

Post by **CitroJim** » 29 Apr 2012, 16:35

citronut wrote:well maybe not ,

Not at all Malcolm, the better access to the elbow afforded by removing the head will make it very easy to separate without damage

And driving around with no dash in does make the job easy next time...

addo · Post by **addo** » 30 Apr 2012, 13:31

Through fixings reached from scuttle side. Wiper mechanism removed for clarity.

Yes, I have not yet cleaned that intake grille.

VertVega · Post by **VertVega** » 30 Apr 2012, 21:16

addo wrote:You can drive with a lot of it removed: ...

Above there is one of the best pic of a Xantia I've seen

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Edit: ... and this pic below with navigator is even better

addo · Post by **addo** » 01 May 2012, 12:38

Soundproofing has lost some of its "skin" wrestling with the HVAC box.

ashy90 · Post by **ashy90** » 02 May 2012, 23:47

LOL. Reminds me of when my dad drove a Fiesta with no front carpet (cut it instead of removing seats etc. when it needed welding in the floor.

addo · Post by **addo** » 03 May 2012, 00:06

There is no front carpet either.

I have examined the old matrix and yes - it definitely leaked from the junction of plastic header tanks and extension tubes. The O-rings were hard and cracked.

With the Nissens matrix, I removed this extension piece, cleaned the assembly oil from O-rings and fittings, then reasembled with ThreeBond 1211 plus the O-rings! The idea was to fill that void between the O-ring and plastic moulding's internal shoulder, adding a measure of extra protection.

In future, I would trim the extension's header plate and plastic weld the tubes to the header tank. It's only the complications of shape that make injection moulding the whole shebang in one piece, unworthwhile for manufacturers.

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