My "love" of all things xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Tell us your ongoing tales and experiences with your French car here. Post pictures of your car here as well.

Moderators: RichardW, myglaren

davetherave
Posts: 880
Joined: 01 Apr 2009, 21:06
x 1

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by davetherave »

Arghh Just wrote a massive post pressed submit and it disappeared :evil:
Here I go again...

Further slight progress today.

Removed exhaust manifold and turbo today and the EGR valve.
Sadly two of the three bolts snapped though!

Image

Going to have to try and drill them out to put a blanking plate on.


The head is back and my pockets much much lighter...
Image


and the refurbished injectors
Image

Also managed to get my pressure gauge made up, thanks Robert Smart for sending me some 4.5mm steel pipe which surprisingly I had none of!
Image

Heres a pic of the brazed joint
Image

It was made up by Pirtek and looks pretty sturdy! Took some persuading to get them to do it mind.

User avatar
myglaren
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 19817
Joined: 02 Mar 2008, 14:30
x 1521

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by myglaren »

davetherave wrote:Arghh Just wrote a massive post pressed submit and it disappeared :evil:
Here I go again...
Too late now but you could try using the 'Go Back' button on the browser, backspace or ALT+left arrow.

I was in to process of sending a post yesterday and the interweb connection died.
Shut the computer down, rebooted the router, rebooted the computer and there was the post all ready to send :)

First time that has happened.

Otherwise your refurbishments seem to be progressing well. Almost there now :)

Deanxm
Posts: 3322
Joined: 18 Dec 2008, 18:57
x 42

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by Deanxm »

Exellent work Dave, its coming along nicely, MLS gaskets arent all they are cracked up to be, they have their uses but in this case a standard gasket would do the job just as well and tolerate a less than perfect mating surface whereas mls will not.

D

User avatar
DickieG
Monaco's youngest playboy
Posts: 4896
Joined: 25 Nov 2006, 10:15
x 15

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by DickieG »

davetherave wrote:The head is back and my pockets much much lighter...
Image
Did the fella in the photo do it "Just like that"? :lol:





I'll get my coat :roll: :lol:

davetherave
Posts: 880
Joined: 01 Apr 2009, 21:06
x 1

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by davetherave »

:lol:

User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 44009
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 1779

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by CitroJim »

That's an exceedingly nice job Pirtek made of the pipe Dave 8-)

And that refurbished head. Beautiful :P This really is going to be a gorgeous XM when it's finished...

User avatar
Chris570
Donor 2020
Posts: 1483
Joined: 12 Dec 2009, 15:10
x 5

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by Chris570 »

What a sod about the snapped studs :(
I can really appreciate the amount of work you're putting in and you'll love it all the more when it's done :)

Richard, excellent :D

davetherave
Posts: 880
Joined: 01 Apr 2009, 21:06
x 1

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by davetherave »

Well today I've managed to have A look at the xantia which has been off of the road for some time since it stopped working after a garage had re timed it about a year ago and it stopped working. Today I managed to get it turning over nicely but no sign of it catching at all.I will try with some diesel tomorrow as have been using veg oil so far.
I'm stumped as to why it is not starting though. Glow plugs work. I do wonder if three injectors arenot in tight enough though though add one moved when undid the pipe union to it.would this really cause non starting?

I hope to get it started tomorrow them once the xm estate Is doneI can starting using the xantia again!

davetherave
Posts: 880
Joined: 01 Apr 2009, 21:06
x 1

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by davetherave »

More diagnosis today, and no fuel is getting through to the injectors and taking positive feed to the fuel solenoid does bugger all. So im guessing the fuel solenoid is rogered :(
Now trying to see if its possible to take the armour off in situ, though i doubt it as I do not have access to a dremel where the xantia is!
I dont want to take the pump off as im afraid of ruining the timing (again)!

red_dwarfers
Donor 2020
Posts: 2525
Joined: 29 May 2008, 15:59
x 19

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by red_dwarfers »

Do I remember hearing somewhere that it's possible to take off the pump without disturbing the timing? I guess if its the pulley that comes off, it must only go back on one way.

davetherave
Posts: 880
Joined: 01 Apr 2009, 21:06
x 1

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by davetherave »

Timing just scares the crap out of me, it stopped working after the garage spent ages timing it after the cambelt failure.
So i am loathe to remove the pump, but it looks to be a right arse to remove the pump armour, doesnt look like its going to be going anywhere soon :(
Hopefully I can come back in a few weeks with a dremel and a chisel and see which one works!

User avatar
DickieG
Monaco's youngest playboy
Posts: 4896
Joined: 25 Nov 2006, 10:15
x 15

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by DickieG »

If you score a line across the pump and its mounting bracket you'll be able to get the pump back to the same timing point as it was prior to be removed.

davetherave
Posts: 880
Joined: 01 Apr 2009, 21:06
x 1

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by davetherave »

Thanks richard, I will have a crack at getting the immobiliser off in situ when I next get back to my parents then if the fails ill take the pump off.
What a PITA!

User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 44009
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 1779

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by CitroJim »

DickieG wrote:If you score a line across the pump and its mounting bracket you'll be able to get the pump back to the same timing point as it was prior to be removed.
Yep, that's all you need to do to ensure the timing is right Dave...

You will not get the armour off easily in-situ. Some say they can but it's risky. I've seen an engine (and a pump) wrecked because of it.

Basically, to get the pump off it's necessary to mark as Richard says. Slip off the front timing cover, bring the engine to time and stick TWO timing pins in the pump sprocket index holes. These two pins will hold the sprocket precisely in place when you remove the pump.

You need a special puller to pop the sprocket off but one can easily be made like this:

Image

Image

Then just undo the three flange nuts and the back plate nut and off she'll come. Just be careful the woodruff key doesn't go walkies. Stuff loads of rag around to catch it if it makes a bid for freedom... The bottom flange nut can be a bit tricky and you may (will) need a special half-moon ring spanner for that one.

My website shows how to de-armour...

It's all easier than it looks and the extra effort involved in removing the pump makes the job easier than trying to de-armour in-situ...

More advice available should you need it Dave :wink:

davetherave
Posts: 880
Joined: 01 Apr 2009, 21:06
x 1

Re: My "love" of all things Xantia...and Xm...and Cx..

Post by davetherave »

A bit of scrap yard strut top rescuing....

Image

Image

Image

Image

Thats a couple more for the cupboard!