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Post by xantia_v6 »

It seems that the later es9j4 (with VVT) with manual transmission, got an oil to water heat exchanger: with fitting instructions

There seems to be quite a lot of good data at that site.

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It's been quite long since the last update, but tbh there hasn't been much to update about... I've been at couple track days since june, and managed to run off the road at a highway ramp. :oops: I blame the new asphalt, others might say that I was just going way too fast. :twisted:

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Could've been a lot worse, I was quite lucky not to hit anything else than a traffic sign. Glad I have proper insurance, estimated repair cost was just under 2500€. :shock: The car is at the shop now, it's getting a new rear door, new rear quarter panel and the scratched front bumper will be painted.

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Post by KP »

Your lucky your Xantia's are so highly valued over the water. Here any xantia with the tiniest bit of damage just gets written off straight away.

I've seen a 2.1td exclusive with cracked bumper and indicator lense being driven into the breakers yard after being a write off :(

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KP wrote:Your lucky your Xantia's are so highly valued over the water. Here any xantia with the tiniest bit of damage just gets written off straight away.

I've seen a 2.1td exclusive with cracked bumper and indicator lense being driven into the breakers yard after being a write off :(
:shock:

The insurance guy did scare me at first though, because he was comparing my precious Activa to a regular V6, which seem to sell for under 3000€... it's not that Xantia is so highly valued here, it's our huge tax on new cars (second only to Denmark's).

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Post by Citroenmad »

OUch, Looks painful!

What did they value your Xantia at, just out of interest?

The best of Activas probably sell for around £1000 over here, maybe a tiny bit more. WHich makes pretty much any damage too much to repair.

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Well, we came to an agreement that the value of my car is atleast 4500€. Not many V6 Activas for sale in Finland to make comparisons... none atm actually. There were couple for sale during the summer, both had double the mileage compared to mine, and asking prices were on both sides of 4000€.

TCT Activas usually have asking prices between 2000-4000€.

When new the base price of an S2 TCT Activa was about 34.000€, and V6 Activa was about 42.000€...

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Some video clips from the Automobile Citroën club's track day at Kemora circuit. And yes, the dirty and dented rouge d'enfer Activa is mine... I had crashed it just a week earlier, and motivation for washing&waxing was kind of lacking.

Preparations and warmup lap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtiaHcCiC3k&fmt=22

The main event, and selecting the ACry Sport Mobile of the year. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9WUcMl4MI&fmt=22

"Drag race"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veBx44Ul1hA&fmt=22

Incar footage from a BX Sport (your's truly appearing @ 3:55 ;)).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWLXIekBU48&fmt=22

Clips of a 204hp TCT Activa and some more drag racing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq0_f7G4HIQ

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I'm getting my baby back from the garage today. :) I must admit I'm a bit worried how the newly painted parts will look on an 11 year old car...

I will also pick up my new winter tyres on my way home: Michelin X-Ice Xi2 205/60-15 installed on the original Activa wheels.

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Hope all is good when you get her back :D The new paint may look a bit shinier for a while but it'll soon blend in with the rest. Main thing is that they have done a good job.

You'll need to keep an eye on the repaired areas over winter to ensure it is all properly rustproofed. All the rusty Xantias I've seen appear to have suffered due to poor attention to rustproofing following accident repair.

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I'm glad to say that the colour difference isn't really that noticeable. The painted plastic part on the door (can't remember the english word for it..) is a telltale sign though, as it has shining smooth finish on the rear door, and kind of a matte texture on the (original) front one... will see if they'll fix it.

There's one small spot above the tail light where the paint doesn't seem to be thick enough (it's quite visible, should definitely be fixed), and one spot below the door handle where the paint has slightly run (not so visible).. and the wheel arch part of the rear door opening has a bit rough surface on it.

The rustproofing "inside" the body panels is of course something that I can't really check, just wait and see... the repairs did cover the most rust prone area of the Xantia, i.e. the seam in rear door opening, and that seems to be properly sealed from the outside.

Then to the new winter tyres... my god they are soft! They are extremely comfortable and quiet, and most likely they'll work like charm on snow, but they certainly feel weird after the rather stiff Hankooks on dry asphalt.

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V6 Activa, now with added horsepower :) I had a 3" exhaust fitted, and the car was put on a dyno before and after, and there was a whopping 8hp and 11Nm gain :lol: But the good news is that it had about 212hp to begin with, and the increase is pretty constant through the rev range. The guys at the garage said that they rarely see engines that produce more than what the manufacturer specifies... and that chip tuning would not yield anything more out of it, which apparently is rather rare too.

Here's a link to the dyno sheet. Sorry about the poor quality, but I don't have a scanner, so I took photo of it...
http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz16 ... _dynos.jpg

Oh, and the exhaust sound is pretty sweet, although a bit on the loud side... 8-)

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Excellent :D Good to know the ES9J4 is a good engine and tned "out of the box" almost spot on :D It is unusual that it often makes more than stock!

I've heard there is no real "easy-wins" with this engine and it's about as good as it gets.

Explains why they always feel so [peppy and lively, even when coupled to an auto...

Seems the next tuning stage is huge pairs of turbos on them :D

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Post by lexi »

Do our Mk1s not have 194 bhp ?

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Post by xantia_v6 »

The Mk1 and Mk2 have the same engine. Whether they have 194 bhp is obviously a tricky question :wink:

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Post by KP »

There is a turbo option for v6 pugs but i don't think it would fit a xantia without the hydraulic pump being relocated to free up some space, battery being placed in the boot and possibly a different radiator and also thinking of where to put the intercooler as well as an oil cooler rad as it would certainly heat the oil up!

Sequential would be the way to go though with a tiny T2 turbo for low boost like a CT engine and then something like a GT28RS for teh higher boost application after say 2000rpm to cut in, but then that would be even more fun trying to fit that under the bonnet!