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They are a bit pricey, hopefully they will only increase in value ... :roll: Parts are available easily, but they soon mount up in price. Have just spent £305 on a few bits with ECAS 2cv parts, much more to come, and yet its a very good car already ... we would like it as perfect as possible, will take a bit of time but we will get there with it.

I have even followed the 2cv with the C1 and it really can do 75! :shock:
75 is as fast as I dared go myself yesterday. :lol: It doesn't do it uphill though ...
It feels most happy at 60 but will cruise at 65-70 fairly easily, that is also the findings of most 2cvGB forum comments too.

I did 70 in our old R4 once, about all it had to give, it really didn't like that! I never did a long run in that, it was much happier at 55.
Its nice to know the 2cv can cope with a bit higher speed, as I imagine ill be taking it a good few miles with the 2cv club outings.

The speedo on the 2cv goes to 70, it records after that but about where 80 would be there is no more speedo. The previous owner said she regularily got it off the clock!

2cv at speed

There was a slightly modified 2cv which I was bidding for on ebay, but missed it. That would apparently do 90mph with ease, can't imagine what revs that would be!

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75 in a 2CV :shock: :lol: Bet it felt more like 175 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You're a braver man than me Chris...

Dad says that the original Austin 7s would do 70. he also added that at those kind of speeds they really were terrifying..

Yep, agreed, an R4 is no speed king. 50-55 is about where it's happiest...

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70 in an Austin 7 must be some kind of punishment, its more of a pram than a car! :lol:

Well a pair if new classic Michelin X Tyres in standard 125 size and a new Harley Davidson coil are on their way for the 2cv. I'm planning on taking it out for a run tomorrow, if the weather agrees. I'll post up some better pictures of it. :)

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We have been doing bits and pieces with the 2cv, getting it closer to how we would like it. Its got Michelin X tyres on the front now, which have transformed the car. It came with worn Firestones which gave a horribly crashy ride, the Michelins have smoothed the ride to how it should be. It rolls even more with them on :lol:

The Harley coil, designed for Harley Davidsons, new plugs and leads have made the engine run smoother and it seems to have more torque now and more pull too. It has also cured the hot starting problem, so its now usable.

It came with quite a few rattles and squeaks, though we have stopped a lot of them now and with the improved ride from the better tyres its very nice to potter around in.

Its getting fairly regular use, mainly around town, the ride is pretty excellent with 4 people in. I did take it out last weekend and did 60 or so miles, here are a few pictures of it from my outing:
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And the interior, its original, note my pool ball gearknob!:
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Ive done a bit of tidying up since those photos, bit of cleaning and polishing, rust preventing and painting on the underside. Ive swapped the aful and non standard 2cv limited edition sticker (the black one) for a proper Beachcomber badge.

I should be getting used to people looking at what car im driving by now, the C15 and traction hardly belnd in, though this does grab a lot of attention!

Still a few things to do with it, buts its a joy to have. Im quite used to driving it now, cornering is still intersting, mainly roundabouts. Going towards them I brace mysfelf as it almost scrubs the door handles along the road, a little unnerving. Though I have found grip is lost before anything too dramatic should happen :lol:
A dual carrigeway or motorway is no home for a 2cv, though it can actually cope at reasonable speeds, in fact I lost track of what speed I was doing the other day. Obviously it was not intended to go any faster than 70 ... pretty sure I was doing 80! Ive not yet checked the accuracy of the speedo, however passing local 30mph warning posts at an indicated 30 sets the flashers going, not in a C5 which is spot on for accuracy.

Over the last tankful the 2cv has done 32MPG, most of that is town driving and a lot of ticking over in the garage.

Ive been using my Activa a bit lately for my commute, one day I averaged 23MPG over my 70 mile route, I was obviously on one! It has behaved itself better on fuel since that trip and is as ever a real joy to drive. Quite different jumping into that from the 2cv though, I don't think you could get a more extreme difference in terms of body control. :lol: Other than using it ive not had time to do anything else with my Xant, it just goes! Im quite glad of the good weather, as before long when the salt hits only the 'Cs' will be in use, the 2cv will be garaged and the Activa under cover for winter hibernation.

I can't remember if I have said in here, I have eventually got my Exclusive SE winter wheels round again and they are fitted to my C5 with fresh Firestone Winterhawk Evo2s. I was a little dubious about fitting them as the weather is not really that cold, but in the wet they are superb, in the dry they perform very well, not quite as good as the summer Michies in the dry but excellent all the same. They are no more noisey and dont really ride any different to the Primacy's either, im impressed with them. They have been on about a month/1700 miles now and I can't fault then, im looking forward to the snow to see how much of a difference they really make.

I have enrolled on the IAM advanced driving course, im soon to go for an assessment drive. Its something I have been thinking about doing for a while, so Im quite looking forward to getting started.

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As it was a nice day I woke up my Activa, having been stood for about 3 weeks. I gave it a good cleaning inside and out, a check of the vitals and took it out for a run while doing a few messages.

A few snaps from today:
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Notice the chrome wheel bolt covers, I think they look rather smart!

As nice as it would be to have a garage for the Xant it has to live outside. So to protect it a bit from the elements ive got a waterproof and breathable car cover for it. The C15 and Xms have had fitted covers, made especially for that car, however I thought I would avoid the £200 cost and buy a cheaper one, got to be better than nothing! Its acutally a very good quality cover, very heavy and durable with a very soft lining inside. It claims to be breathable and waterproof, after the downpour just then its still dry on the underside with the water beading off. Its also supposed to protect for UV too. It fits quite tightly around the front and rear but the roof section is a little baggy, but it will do the job im sure.

Here it is in its pajamas:
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So thats possibly it parked for the rest of the year now, its safe where it is at the back of the house. No doubt the temptation to drive it will get too much and it will be out again soon, providing there is no salt about.
I plan to fit the new radiator over the Christmas holiday break, but apart from that its going very very well and ive no complaints to report.

One observation I do have is the Activa is not a good car for shopping trips, by the time I got home it was everywhere! :lol: Mind, I was getting a bit too brave today :twisted:

Ive no desire to be selling it any time soon, I like it far too much 8-)
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She's looking absolutely lovely Chris... Excellent :-D

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[quote="RichardW"] 75 though.... no way surely. quote]

Many well-run-in 2CVs will do that , or more. At least 2 of mine would hit the stopper on the clock - on the flat, which is probably somewhere above 75mph :-) I once drove from BB4 to SL7, a total of 210 miles in just under 3 hours in one, so must have averaged 70ish.

My brother's Sidewinder (2CV Body, GSA 1299cc, 5-speed gearbox, Ami Super Chassis) goes somewhat faster, but still looks like a 2CV to the uninitiated..

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CitroJim wrote:75 in a 2CV :shock: :lol: Bet it felt more like 175 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You're a braver man than me Chris...

Dad says that the original Austin 7s would do 70. he also added that at those kind of speeds they really were terrifying..

Yep, agreed, an R4 is no speed king. 50-55 is about where it's happiest...
When I was at college, one of my mates had a late model R4 with the 1.1 motor in it. It would *indicate* 95mph, though how accurate that was, we don't know

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Citroenmad wrote:We have been doing bits and pieces with the 2cv, getting it closer to how we would like it..
Chris, that is a gorgeous looking 2CV. I wish I'd kept one of mine now..

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I was just thinking that, i never got the 2cv apeal but now im starting to wonder, followed one from the post office the other day and it blew me away going up the hill, well by blow me away i meant it took off like a shot and i was expecting him to be pushing it, i had to wind up to 40mph to catch him :lol:

there is just something about them, they look cute and fun i guess and that one more than many others ive seen.

Is that a triumph spitfire steering wheel too Chris?

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Activa_Mike wrote: Many well-run-in 2CVs will do that , or more. At least 2 of mine would hit the stopper on the clock - on the flat, which is probably somewhere above 75mph :-) I once drove from BB4 to SL7, a total of 210 miles in just under 3 hours in one, so must have averaged 70ish.

My brother's Sidewinder (2CV Body, GSA 1299cc, 5-speed gearbox, Ami Super Chassis) goes somewhat faster, but still looks like a 2CV to the uninitiated..
Ive had ours off the clock now, probably where 80 should be really, it actually sings along at it and while it is noisey it doesnt sound like its about to expire. I actually think people are a little surprised at seeing one move so quickly! I seem to get similar looks as I did doing 85 in the traction, people just dont expect it. Probably not really a sensible cruising speed for one, its much happier at 60, however if its well maintained there shouldn't be any problem running at high revs, they are a pretty hardy and simple design.

Ours pulls well and its quicker than I thought one would be, far more usable than our previous R4. Well it pulls well now, after a service, new coil, plugs and leads, its a little stormer :lol:

They are so easy to drive too, the gearchange is a real joy to use, the brakes are quite powerful, the steering not too heavy and they do perform if you drive them how they should be driven - using all of the revs :twisted:
Activa_Mike wrote: When I was at college, one of my mates had a late model R4 with the 1.1 motor in it. It would *indicate* 95mph, though how accurate that was, we don't know
Ours was a 72 TL, an 845cc perhaps? It was quite slow and yes, I only ever did push for 70 once, it did it but it really was about to explode. Shortly after that it broke down on me (pay back no doubt), it was an electrical fault, of all things! There must only be 4 or 5 wires in the whole car :lol: I remember having three passengers in it while I was driving it on the door handles round country bends, the rear mudflaps wore on the edges :lol:

Must be 4 years since we sold that now, it was a fun thing but was rarely used. I think it did 3000 miles in the 10 years we had it.

When I was still at school my dad had two R4s, one was the above 72 TL and another was a 85 1.1 GTL (much nippier) but that one was originally white and had been fitted with red doors, tailgate and bonnet (still have the white doors for it) and red wheels. I hated being dropped off at school in it, so embarrassing! :oops:

I much prefer the 2cvs to R4s, the R4 is perhaps a better car, a little more spacious and conventional. However safety and refinement much be very very similar.
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Citroenmad wrote:We have been doing bits and pieces with the 2cv, getting it closer to how we would like it..
Chris, that is a gorgeous looking 2CV. I wish I'd kept one of mine now..
Thanks, we are very happy with it, needs a few bits and pieces but then it is a 2cv!
Deanxm wrote:I was just thinking that, i never got the 2cv apeal but now im starting to wonder, followed one from the post office the other day and it blew me away going up the hill, well by blow me away i meant it took off like a shot and i was expecting him to be pushing it, i had to wind up to 40mph to catch him :lol:

there is just something about them, they look cute and fun i guess and that one more than many others ive seen.

Is that a triumph spitfire steering wheel too Chris?

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Having just this second came inside from blasting around town in the 2cv (it needed a bit of a warm through) my smile says they are an awful lot of fun!

I would find it very hard to think of another car which is as fun as this, its just so insane and mad that you can't help but like it and smile. People look at the car and smile at it too, its excellent!

I think that steering wheel is from 2cv City, they seem to put the smaller, spoty steering wheels on them at times. An original one might look better but I like this one, its small and chunky to hold, unlike the thin and larger originals.

I really can't wait for spring when it can be in use proper, with the roof back and enjoying sunny days. No doubt it will see a CCC event next year, I might pop down to the ICCCR in it one day.

The Activa is a fun car, but fun in a serious way it is a very normal car and for me only becomes fun when really pressing on. The 2cv is fun because its a crazy and mad car, even when its stood still its still fun to be in :lol: They should be available on perscription!
I didn't get the 2cv thing either Dean, I like big and refined cars generally, but its a totally different concept, every journey, no matter how dull and boring the journey is, is an advernture in a 2cv.

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Deanxm wrote:I was just thinking that, i never got the 2cv apeal but now im starting to wonder

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Dean, sit down with a nice scotch and re-read what you said again! [-X [-X :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Liking your shiny nut covers Chris! 2CV looks tidy too! Make sure you give me first refusal on the Activa if you ever decide to move it own..

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My C5 flew through its MOT with no advisories today 8-) I didn't expect it to fail but its a nice to know it passed with no issues, especially this close to Christmas.

I can't wait for the roads and shops to die down again after Christmas, its almost gridlock today :lol:
XantiaMan wrote:Liking your shiny nut covers Chris! 2CV looks tidy too! Make sure you give me first refusal on the Activa if you ever decide to move it own..
I think they smarten the wheels up a treat. I got them originally for the XM but the covers are too deep so they stick out of the XM wheel nuts. Fit the Xantia perfectly though.

Of course, ill let you know if that happens :) Might have to swap you for a nice Puma! :lol:

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Great new on the MOT Chris :-D :-D :-D

I know, everything goes crazy at this time of the year :evil: Still look on the bright side - this time next week it'll all be over :-D :-D :-D