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Citroenmad wrote: Hence me thinking about swapping my problem child C5 for something a bit less time demanding, as i dont have much time to fix it.
A C5 with problems! I am surprised :lol:

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Since getting my C5 VTR ive wanted to fit cruise control to it, as the C5 SX i had before and still have does have cruise, as does the C5 estate, but mine was lacking.

So today i had a trip down to Bradford to see Ben Cowell, who i bought the C5 SX from, and have a bit of a lexia session to have the codes read, the suspension heights played with and to enable cruise.

I was unsure if my VTR would need the extra brake switch to allow the cruise control to work, some of them have them fitted already and some dont. So as a test i swapped the cruise stalk from the SX to my VTR and after much hunting on the Lexia we found the option to enable cruise and it worked! So im dont need the extra switches, the brakes and clutch already have them on my car so the cruise works as should. That just means i need to get a cruise stalk ordered to replace the one ive pinched from the SX - ill do that this week.

So thats one of the main things i wanted to do with this car, and now i finally have cruise control. Makes the C5 even more of a mile muncher. The drive home was great, i do miss cruise when im in a car without it, its such a bonus on a motorway drive.

The car knew the stalk was fitted, as the Lexia showed the functions of the buttons when they were operated, however the cruise wouldnt work. It took some finding but the option to turn on the cruise control is in the injection menu.

We did find a few fault codes, however none were nothing to worry about. One was the steering wheel angle sensor, this is because ive replaced the comms2000, but as my car doesnt have ESP or H3+ its not needed on my car, infact i dont think it even has the sensor, its just confused after the new comms was fitted.

Everything else seems fine with the car, luckily, im amassed at the detail the Lexia goes to with the C5, literally everything is computerised and can be operated via the Lexia.

We had a look at the suspension ride height, which showed the car to be slightly high at the front, we set both front and rear down but after a short test drive the rear was too hard at that height. So its now at the correct ride height front and back, not nose high as it was before. I say nose high, it was very slight.

It was interesting to see the car with the suspension de-pressurised, as with the suspension set to low on a C5 the car doesn't depressurise and so there is still travel left. With the pressure off the suspension the car does go very low, quite a bit more than having it set to low.

Im very impressed with the Lexia, i had looked at Daves at the DSM, but going through it for a few hours really showed me how much detail it has. I think it might be handy to have one of my own, im sure it will be handy for the C5s and Xm.

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My new cruise control stalk turned up this week, so thats now fitted. Now all 3 C5s have working cruise :)

More new tyres this week, after my last pair of fronts (Toyos) lasted 11K miles. Ive gone for some more Michelins Primacy HPs to match the rears, which i replaced a few months ago. Im still cringing at the price, £532 for the 4, but it could be worse, i could have a C6! :lol: :roll:

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I really enjoyed the trip to the NEC last weekend for the Classic Car Show and MPH/TopGear Live. Me and my dad went, I drove down on the Friday evening and spent Saturday in the Classic show, then Sunday morning watching TopGear Live then the rest of the day finishing off what id missed in the classic show - there was so much to see i could have easily spent another day there!

The TopGear live show was a bit tamed down on previous years, not quite as many daring stunts, but it was very good. The two new Porsche 911s driving around in flames was the best part for me, excellent effects, especially with them leaving trails of fire on the ground.

The classic car show was as good as ever, though i felt the CCC stand was not as good as it had been, it was overshadowed by the TOC and 2cv stand, which were both very good with the CCC perched on the corner.

It was good to see a Renault stand, there has not been one there for years. It even had a Renault 4 on the stand, a tidy GTL in bright yellow. Along with some very nice older Renaults, 16s etc, and even an Avantime.

The trade stands were very good, i picked up quite a few things there, cleaning products, brochures and models.

I took my C5 for the trip, it performed brilliantly, cruise set to 70 on the satnav and off it went. Did the whole trip at 49MPG, which was impressive given we got cought up in traffic. C5s are such excellent cruisers, they are at home doing hundreds of motorway miles, very few cars offer the levels of quietness and comfort, the Xm cant beat it for refinement!

I took my C5 for its MOT this week, it passed without faults. A couple of the more vulnerable suspension pipes are showing early corrosion, so the MOT tester commented that they just need a quite rub down and painting/greasing.

Im happy with that, its due a 6000 mile service, so ill have to find time to do that soon. Along with a brake fluid change as thats over due.

The Xm needed new parking brake cables after one had snapped. Its front discs and pads were in need of replacing, so theyhave now all been fitted and its going as well as ever. Looking better with its missing headlamp washer cover now replaced - still available from Citroen for about £35.

The 1007 is now looking virtually like new, its bodywork dink is sorted, serviced and its going very well. The 1007 has interior trim pannels which can be unzipped and replaced, the kit is called the cameleo trim kit and every 1007 came with two sets from new. However ours only had the one it was wearing which was a bit grubby. So after sending it away for a valet i pruchased a new Cameleo set of trim covers from Ebay for the pricely sum of £18 incl. deliver, which is now fitted. In the kit you get both upper and lower internal seat squab covers, new rear armrest and front door pannels and new rings for the heater blower vents. Its looking much better now, it has a dark blue/checked trim kit, instead of its original silver.

I think its unpopularity is the reason why 1007 specific add on parts are so cheap. I got a brand new Peugeot carpet set for £10, 1007 mudflaps for £15 a full set. Eventually it will be up for sale, but at the moment we are enjoying it, its great for around town.

Though we still have the Seat, whcih we need to sell, but at the moment it doesnt want to leave, throwing up problems and things which need to be fixed. It has been almost faultless for 6 years, now sale time is here the exhaust has gone and it snapped a front spring when i was driving it the other weekend. Both are now fixed but the front springs are not right, its sitting too high and drives like a jelly, so i need to change those again. :?

I use the Peugeot on and off, I often get comments about its sliding doors, though usually good! The 2-tronic box is still impressive, if i had to live with it every day then id probably get tired of its slow changes, but as it is its very easy to drive. It really makes my 40 minute crawl into Newcastle City Centre more bearable!

The Traction is now in hibernation for the winter, i doubt it will be out again this year, so its having a rest in its warm garage. Its done a good few miles since we got it back on the road in May following its engine rebuild. Its still going very well. Its insurance value was questioned earlier in the year, so after finding out its worth more than it was insured for and swapping its classic cover to another company, we had to get a proper evaluation on it so to insure it for its correct value. It took a while but through various specialists and CCC club officials we now have it insured for its value. Its increased considerably.

So no real French Car problems to report at this stage, everything is going well and my C5 is behaving. Ive decided to keep it for the long term now, its the perfect commuter for my uni drive and its size comes in very handy at work too. :?

Here are a few pictures of the Pug:
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The interior with its new Cameleo trim:
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Im just about to set off to drive 45 miles up the coast, its been snowing a lot during the night, its currently hail stoning and the radio weather forecast has just said that 10" more snow is expected for today! Roads are closed everywhere, the main road near me is closed due to sheet ice and cars not being able to get traction over the flyover.

This is not going to be fun, i think ill try and reschedule this!

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Well i gave travelling further North a miss today, glad i did too as where i was heading tell me they had 10" of snow today. Im going up that way on Wednesday, hopefully it will be gone by then.

So i was at work instead today, road are snowy but passable and main roads are better than they have been. Though that didnt stop me from passing numerous crashes on the way.

Ive spent a good part of the day helping push cars out of our works car park, which was full of snow, turning to ice and its quite banked up to the main road. One passat got so stuck on the ice, even with 8 people pushing it it was stuck tight, a few inches behind my car which was parked up to a wall. Why do some people think when they are stuck in snow or ice they must press harder on the accelerator, easy does it is the only way, break traction and you just turn snow into polished ice. Though eventually we did get it out.

I jumped in my car to go out at lunch and despite having to reverse up the same track the passat was well and truly stuck on, with careful driving i didn't get one wheel spin. :roll:


I went to start the Xm yesterday, it had been parked for a good few weeks. Despite it being sat in -5 degrees, i waited for the glow plugs twice and it was away, sounding very smooth and quiet. Not rattling like our 2.0 16v HDi was :?

The C1 has proved the theory that small, lightweight cars with skinny tyres are great in snow. I was thinking it would be and now ive had chance to test it on the snow its really grippy. Much more grip than my C5 has in the snow (which is coping well), the C1 is excellent on snow, with a set of winter tyres it would be virtually unstoppable :lol:

Ive been wanting to get a fitted cover made for the Xm estate. We have one for an Xm hatch, in exactly the right shape for the car (anyone want one?) and we had one made for the Van, but like the van they have never made a cover for an Xm estate, so it requires taking the car down to the cover company for them to custom make a template to design the cover. So that will need doing as soon as i have time and the roads are good enough, i hate taking the Xm out in bad weather, as i dont like the salt getting to it if its not really necessary to drive it. I do find the Xm is great in snow though, but it wears the narrowest of Xm tyres which are much narrower than my C5s.

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In reply to Roberts PM about the Xm Hatch car cover, here is a few pictures of it, spaceship:

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Its a fully fitted, fully water proof, fully breathable (as you can see, its fully everything!) cover, suitable for any Xm hatchback.

Im wanitng one for the Xm estate, but ill have to take the car to get the cover designed. Ive no more use for this one, so its up for grabs. Excellent condition.

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Flicking through my photobucket account i found this picture of me driving the C15 on a 2cv drive event, it was a run to Tan Hill in January 2009.

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Quite like that picture and as ive only got one of the C15 in here i thought its stick it in.

When it was new, still at the supplying Citroen Dealer in mid France:

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Not sure what it was full of in th emiddle picture, but it was obviously heavy! Bottom picture is collecting it from the above dealer with its predecessor, a 4 wheeler.

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Well, as some of you know from my other thread, ive just bought a C5II. Its the model ive been wanting since I first thought about getting a C5, it just took me a while to get there.

So the car then, its a 56reg C5 2.0HDi 16v 138bhp VTR Hatchback in Icelandic Grey, Only 12K miles, full service history, one owner. Just what i was wanting, its perfect!

Here are a few pictures from today just after I collected it from the dealer. Freshly serviced and MOT'd:

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I dropped into the Citroen dealer on the way home to order a set of C5 carpet mats and a boot liner. It already has mud flaps fitted so I didn't need to get those.

Compared to my S1 VTR it drives quite differently. The suspension is perhaps a little firmer, but it handles better, less body lean, and it feels more precisce. The biggest difference seems to be in steering feel, there is more feel and its sharper too. The 6 speed gearbox is great, it cruises at 70mph in 6th doing just a shade over 2000rpm, which makes it an even more relaxing place to be, im really looking forward to doing a long trip in it.

With 28 more bhp and 236 ib.ft, its quite noticeably quicker than the 110. With it having quite a bit of torque you dont need to work the gearbox, it will happily pull strongly from 50 to 70 in 6th gear. At last, a car with a 0-60 time of under 10 seconds! Not that that matters.

The cruise control works differently to the S1s, its actually easier to use now ive got used to it from driving our identical spec C5 estate. Though i have noticed, that cruising along at 70mph then engage the cruise control the MPG increases by quite a lot, meaning its better on fuel with cruise enabled - i find this at every speed. However, with my S1 it was the opposite, cruise control made it use more fuel.

Ive not been far today, only 80 miles or so, despite giving the car a good try its averaged 46mpg, impressive and it seems better than the 110 under the same conditions. Ill give a better report of the economy differences as i live with the car.

Over the last 6380 miles the car has averaged 42MPG, confirming my thoughts that this has been more of a long distance or second car, that MPG would not be achievable on short trips.

Im doing my usual trip to mid France in the summer, im looking forward to taking this C5, I thought my last one was good though. Superb cruisers.

My 04 plate VTR will be for sale soon, hopefully that will sell well as I really need the room now. So for now we have 4, 4 Citroen C5s in the same household, must be a record? :lol:

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Post by XantiaDaveEire »

Very nice Chris 8-)

Id say your delighted :lol:

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Post by myglaren »

Looks excellent Chris :yes:

:jealous: :D

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Thanks guys :)

Yes, im very much delighted Dave :D

As im a member of the 2cvGB club (yet to actually own one though!) I went along to the Raid Tan Hill drive event yesterday. The convoy started at Leeds and worked its way 60 miles through country roads, ending up at the Tan Hill Inn, the highest Inn in Britain.

However i got delayed, what with the roads being like sheet ice, so ended up getting to Leeds 10 minutes after the 2cvs had left. No matter, we planned our own route across country and set off.

The roads were interesting, as many were covered in black ice, higher up there was snow and ice. Making it tricky in places, icy roads, tight turns, steep hills and snow made for interesting conditions. I passed a few crashed cars off the road on my journey but i was impressed with how the C5 coped with the conditions, it was great. I did get stuck once, the hill got steeper and steeper and it ground to a wheel spinning stop. After slightly annoying a 4x4 driver as i got stuck on a narrow, very steep hill covered in snow, i reversed right back down and rally styled the car to the top.

I got out in a few places to take pictures, one place i parked i couldnt even get out of the car, it was just so slippery.

Despite setting off after the 2cvs, doing more miles, as two roads i went down i decided to turn back, as they had not been driven on an snow drifts were making some bits even more tricky and not passing the 2cvs on route, we arrived about 45 minutes before them, without any problems. Just time to get some very nice pub food before they arrived.

Which was lucky, as people coming up the other side of the road had got stuck in snow drifts and had to leave their cars a mile from the pub.

I did the run two years ago, about 100 2cvs turned up, there seemed to be less than half that figure this year, but a good turn out nonetheless.

The drive home was similar to going, some roads to get back home were even worse, at one point I had to drive in intermediate height as snow drifts were too deep and were still catching the underside even with he suspension up.

What a great day though, a nice chance to drive my new C5, great scenery, very few people around due to the conditions (mainly people in 4x4s looking at me funny in my front wheel drive car) and tricky conditions really made the day actually. I was slightly embarrassed that I had to let a stray 2cv past on one snow covered winding road, it was off like a rocket and i didnt have the grip to match it.

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Dont be fooled, thats not water on the road, its bright ice! And the wind must have been around 90mph, unbelievable!. Excellent fun though.
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The car was soon filthy.
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Most roads looked like this, if not worse. My dad was taking pictures most of the way!
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2cvs covered in snow drifts! There was just as much snow under their bonnets.
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An excellent day, i did think it was an odd time to do such a run, but 2cvs are perfect in the snow and the weather made the day more enjoyable. :)

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Well we have now sold one of our 10 cars today, the Seat, which has freed up a bit of much needed parking room. The 1007 will have to go shortly, if anyone would like one!?

My C5 has had a little interest on here in the for sale advert, ill be sticking that on some classifieds this week, hopefully I can find a buyer for that soon. Link to sale advert:

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... highlight=

My new C5 is impressing me more all the time, i can't fault it.

The Xm sailed through its MOT on Saturday without any issues, the tester commented on what a clean and solid car it is. So thats on the road for another year, im looking forward to better weather when ill be taking it out more.

The C15 has sat dormant for a good few months now, might be about 6 months or more in fact. So I need to awaken that soon, its due a service and cambelt, so that will be our job sometime soon.

I never use the C15 or Xm through the winter months, as the salt wont do them any favours.

Everything else is running like a dream, which is why my blogs thread is so quiet.

My C5I and C5II:
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Post by colski »

Your new C5 looks lovely. The facelift C5 is 100 times nicer looking than the Mk1.

I bet it has plenty of punch being a 138bhp :D

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Added ya on facebook Chris :lol: ,hope ya don't mind :oops: