Rear seat belt retraction.
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Rear seat belt retraction.
Can anybody remember the linky on here for modifying the rear seat belts so they spool a little faster?
I have been through the archive using the search facility and seem to remember reading about a mod that could be done to help the rear seat belt retract. It was in the last few months but I am bu**ered if I can find it! I am sure my marbles are still here.
MOT time is looming for the estate and I have a couple of little jobs to do.
Handyman
I have been through the archive using the search facility and seem to remember reading about a mod that could be done to help the rear seat belt retract. It was in the last few months but I am bu**ered if I can find it! I am sure my marbles are still here.
MOT time is looming for the estate and I have a couple of little jobs to do.
Handyman
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Quite My kids (and all their mates) are now fully conditioned to carefully retract the seatbelts as they alight.DickieG wrote:If its on an estate "they all do that Guv" and are slow to retract by poor design
After years of "Seatbelts Girls!" being shouted at them, they have got the message!
I don't think it'll make it fail the MOT Handyman, as long as the belts properly latch-up when tugged, no worries.
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Hello Chaps, thanks for all the prompt replies.
Spraying the belts with any sort of silicone based lubricant is a no-no as the silicates can rot the webbing or stitching.
I thought there was a link, only recently, to another forum, aussiefrogs, etc, to effect a modification to the mechanism as it would then allow the belts to spool at a slightly faster speed. Or am I dreaming?
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Spraying the belts with any sort of silicone based lubricant is a no-no as the silicates can rot the webbing or stitching.
I thought there was a link, only recently, to another forum, aussiefrogs, etc, to effect a modification to the mechanism as it would then allow the belts to spool at a slightly faster speed. Or am I dreaming?
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Interesting that the silicone lubricant degrades the webbing, hadn't heard that previously.
It is a common fault on C5s, mine included and I give mine a squirt of Asda cabin cleaner ever few months.
Fully extend it, a light spray along the full retracing length (not the permanently exposed bits) and it lasts for ages.
It is a common fault on C5s, mine included and I give mine a squirt of Asda cabin cleaner ever few months.
Fully extend it, a light spray along the full retracing length (not the permanently exposed bits) and it lasts for ages.
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I'm pretty certain silicone is inert, unless it contains petrolium distiliates (like many dash bright sprays can).
I use it all the time on rubber and plastics - hmm, that somehow sounds worse than it is...
I use it all the time on rubber and plastics - hmm, that somehow sounds worse than it is...
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A quick look in my technical data records for silicone based lubricants shows that there is a myriad of different types for different applications.
The most suitable item I could find was a spray made by Ambersil (CFC Chemicals) and designed for the food industry, which stated the silicone content was inert when in contact with most materials and was also able to have sustained contact with skin with no deleterious effects. It could be sprayed onto fabrics, woven items, etc. and was acceptable for use on all plastics. It contains no harmful propellants but fumes were still hazardous.
Many other silicone sprays are harmful and will react with oxidising agents, some also causing decomposition when in contact with carbon or carbon oxides.
In addition, many can cause skin irritation and dermatitis with prolonged skin contact, by defatting the skin.
The only other downside is that ALL these products are extremely harmful to aquatic life.
I may try the silicone lubricant as a temporary measure but will look at the design of the system to see if there is a more agreeable fix.
Would still like to find that linky though.
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The most suitable item I could find was a spray made by Ambersil (CFC Chemicals) and designed for the food industry, which stated the silicone content was inert when in contact with most materials and was also able to have sustained contact with skin with no deleterious effects. It could be sprayed onto fabrics, woven items, etc. and was acceptable for use on all plastics. It contains no harmful propellants but fumes were still hazardous.
Many other silicone sprays are harmful and will react with oxidising agents, some also causing decomposition when in contact with carbon or carbon oxides.
In addition, many can cause skin irritation and dermatitis with prolonged skin contact, by defatting the skin.
The only other downside is that ALL these products are extremely harmful to aquatic life.
I may try the silicone lubricant as a temporary measure but will look at the design of the system to see if there is a more agreeable fix.
Would still like to find that linky though.
Handyman
A bit of a late reply, I'm afraid - just catching up after Christmas...
I was faced with a MoT fail as my estate rear seatbelts were retracting too slowly a few years back. I tried dismantling and lubricating the belt spindles; a terrible job (don't do it) and it made no difference. In the end I trimmed and reshaped the slot in the c-pillar trim they disappear into. This made a lot of difference and got my MoT pass. Even now they still retract swiftly.
Dave
I was faced with a MoT fail as my estate rear seatbelts were retracting too slowly a few years back. I tried dismantling and lubricating the belt spindles; a terrible job (don't do it) and it made no difference. In the end I trimmed and reshaped the slot in the c-pillar trim they disappear into. This made a lot of difference and got my MoT pass. Even now they still retract swiftly.
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Hi Dave, I have attached this picture in another thread earlier. Rear seat belt stopped retraction and the reason is seen below. After fixing it is functioning now but it is slow.
Is this seat belt slot same as in yours. What kind of modifications did you make there?
I guess many Xantia Estate owner's kids are "well trained" about dealing with the rear seat belts
Is this seat belt slot same as in yours. What kind of modifications did you make there?
I guess many Xantia Estate owner's kids are "well trained" about dealing with the rear seat belts
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I have been trying to figure out a modification for the seat belt but unfortunately I didn't come up with a solution yet. Here is a close up from the same original picture. The smooth curved surface of that metal makes me think that the belt should go through that gap there. Am I right OR (right) ... ?
Any ideas?
PS: Dave are you still catching up after New Year ?
Any ideas?
PS: Dave are you still catching up after New Year ?
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