thanks James will look at some point..
whilst the dash is off I wanted to paint it [the dash] dark , very dark blue,. but time isn't on my side, and the matrix may arrive tomorrow (snow providing) so I may have to stick the 'vanplastic' grey thing back in lol.. I haven't ever painted a dash and cant afford days of time really.. such a shame whilst its all in pieces..
I did buy a 12/240V Avtex tv earlier this week from Andover, with a failed DVD player.. tonight I dismantled, and cleaned the lens for fun.. and no joy.
then by a chance I accidentally hooked the the laser ribbon out wile reassembling .. then I had a thought.. maybe it had already worked loose? (I was being carful reassembling) so to cut a long story short, the DvD player works now! what a lovely fix

- it also has a USB, HDMI, line out etc, so will be a very light useful feature if I find myself in Western Scotland / Croatia - with rain and fancy a movie or music or piccies etc.. its about 30W, which is probably ok for the odd eves.. think it an 18./5" LED..
the caravan windows look ok - not amazing but not bad.. (after deciding layout, and dismantling them from their frame, I taped and propped them roughly in place) , if anything the van lets them down, its almost matt now with years of no care.. anyway, they have moz nets, blinds, and are double glazed.. will be ok..
Gas supply.. thoughts anyone? I wanted underslung LPG but the tank I grabbed turned out to be 100L lol. the handbrake (rear half) and exhaust (front half) - of chassis - mess that up !