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yes..
wish i didnt have to pull the head.. but the back of the valves will surely be a bad area.. are they even visible with head in place i wonder..

http://www.team-bhp.com/tech-stuff/all- ... bonisation

then again. . I would hate to fail an emissions test after all the other work ;)

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Engine only has sump, cambelt and Vac pump left on now..

still not sure i want to take the head off :O although looking at below, the valves are going to be covered...
still wondering what caused this, is it a leaking turbo shaft and oil, or something to do with egr, or just the way things go?

here is the engine side of the inlet manifold.. yuuk


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have noticed something about images and google.. when i first put them up, some of you can see them, then after half an hour or so, the image no longer works.. the link to it changes, and i can resend a new link and all (hopefully) works again
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Is that carbon build-up typical of an oiler that has been short/cold run a lot and has a EGR on the system ?

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Looks like normal EGR crud to me John...

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thanks both..
gave block another wash tonight, finally removed clutch.
I filled the intercooler up with water :-D
it leaks.. will know for sure tomorrow..
so.. as expected and as normal.. the turbo was on the way out, oil gets back into the charge, sprays out of the IC and coats the front of engine, alternator, chassis side rail, cam covers and so on...

it may have been doing this for some time.. presumably a slight drop in turbo pressure..
clutch just looks like a used clutch really..
flywheel is a single mass!

will add some pics later, nothing very interesting ;)

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Do you have a Mig John?

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hi Lexi
yes and no

reading betwixt the lines are you saying 'if you cant weld bin this' ? :) its on my mind a lot..

ask me in 24 hours :)

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chaps anyone have an idea about this quite pretty red dust in the driver's hub? the bearing feels dodgy to me, so will change it as well as the very noisy Near side..


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tried today to get someone to press them, best I had was £30 per side.. almost feel like buying a press but I have managed so far without, and its something else in the way really..

The engine is now lying on the bench.. the oil on the cam side? I am sure (I hope) its just residual from the Intercooler spraying mist for months or years... if not, this gunge is headgasket really.. but the fact its up and down from the join makes that seem unlikely..

also, some cam carrier internal pics.. looks worse than it is! the cams lobes are all perfect mirrors which is encouraging.. I don't want to remove the head.. but really if anyone can add to a pro or con for its removal I would be grateful.

so far :
clutch (worked but should replace)
near side wheel bearing (very noisy)
offside wheel bearing feels odd and the red dust
offside shock
rear engine mounting
offside seized caliper (now free but don't think its saveable)
both driveshafts
the main lower crossmember
a turbo rebuild (new cartridge)
injector work
oil
gearbox oil
filters (oil, air, fuel)
driveshaft seals
and of course the elephant in room, the welding

hence doing more work, or more costs, just is a step too far (headgasket)

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looking at the cam side pic again, maybe the rocker cover...maybe... just thought it was dry at the top there

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John, if you are in my area at any time you are always very welcome to use my press for the wheel bearings...

Been a bit of water ingress in the hub... Perhaps the van may have negotiated a few floods to get like that...

I see similar red rust in the clutch too. The van hasn't been submerged at any time has it?

Does not look like oil changes have been too regular in that engine!

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yes thought about van submerged Jim.. noticed the clutch

. many thanks for press offer :) .. I can pick a 15ton taskmaster up for 140 used. . I suppose I could sell it on again once used.. or.. are you about sat eve ;)

that oil .. I wonder about cam seal... will.have another look later. .

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Yes, I'll be here on Saturday evening John, will save you buying a press just for one job...

Very welcome as always...

Yes, I'd swap the cam seal now whilst it is fairly easy to get at... That'll be a good suspect for the leak...

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thanks jim

realising what a weird engine this is... a 2.2 8 valve.. makes part buying a bit tricky... I think it only has one application - the van from 2002 to 2006.. albeit the Fiat and citroen and pug

not even sure it's a psa engine

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It looks like a PSA engine John, some casting patterns look familiar, as does the shape of the sump...

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would be good to know if it shares any parts..I.e head gasket.. I think the bore is the same as 2.2 16v and 2.0 8 valve. .

I guess more research..