CitroJim's AX, C3 Picasso, Cycling and Running Tales

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 14 Feb 2010, 21:31

andmcit wrote:What's the story behind the new arrival
then - has it been seen before on the forum? Looks like a personalised
plate being so short?

I will say no more at this point until it is here with me Andrew... No, not seen on the forum before as far as I know...

Xaccers · Unread post by **Xaccers** » 14 Feb 2010, 21:32

CitroJim wrote: Now why would you want to swap Juliet Xac?

Nice as she is to drive, being a MK2 she's no looker.

You have to do the V6 conversion Jim!
It makes perfect sense, what with the trips down to Somerset

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 14 Feb 2010, 21:43

CitroJim wrote:An automatic Activa....

Very tempting

Nooooooooooo!!! If you're going to the trouble go on, make it a hydraulic manual.
It's a good number actually

I'm sure that's got some history.
S1'S RULE!!

Andrew

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 14 Feb 2010, 21:47

andmcit wrote: Nooooooooooo!!! If you're going to the trouble go on, make it a hydraulic manual.

Don't worry Andrew, I really was joking there... It was not the talk of a fuzzy 'flu-filled brain..

The only thing is though, the Activa ML5 gearing is a bit short for a V6 really. Mind you, scorching acceleration should be the order of the day but top speed would not be quite what it could be but who needs speed?

citroenxm · Unread post by **citroenxm** » 14 Feb 2010, 22:28

How would you fit a box from a 4 cylinder fit to a V6 block?? Or have PSA been really clever and make both PSA V6 block and PSA 4 cylinder blocks have the same bolt hole positions?? Id thought you'd have to change the bell house..

Paul

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 14 Feb 2010, 22:41

citroenxm wrote:How would you fit a box from a 4 cylinder fit to a V6 block??

Pattern is the same Paul. In theory you could fit a BE3 to a V6 as just like F0rd, many PSA gearboxes use the same bellhousing pattern and are pretty much interchangeable. I'm not sure this extends to the MA 'box fitted to the TU engines though...

The folks who put the CT engine into 205s mate it to a BE3 'box. Playing with fire really as the BE3 is good for about 150BHP tops. Much more and they tend to explode in the diff department...

One thing I need to establish is if the CT flywheel will fit the V6 crank tail.

Toby_HDi · Unread post by **Toby_HDi** » 14 Feb 2010, 22:43

I wonder if you could also somehow make the manual mode option work in a Xantia.

I'm thinking along the lines of Alfa 166 Sportronic. It's a ZF 4HP20 box but with a manual mode too though a different casing I believe. Find a way of sticking it in a V6 Activa - best of both worlds!

addo · Unread post by **addo** » 14 Feb 2010, 22:45

They made Activa V6 autos with the 4HP20, according to some parts lisitings on SC. Also there are driveshafts for AL4 "with active anti-roll" listed elsewhere...

citroenxm · Unread post by **citroenxm** » 14 Feb 2010, 22:46

I understand that an Alloy XU mated gearbox, would fit a Two litre cast iorn 4cylinder, thats understandable...

That is a very interesting discovery then.. What about the PRV V6's in the XM's? Id love to know if a 2.5 manual box would fit a PRV V6 engine...

Paul

Sl4yer · Unread post by **Sl4yer** » 14 Feb 2010, 23:10

CitroJim wrote:An automatic Activa....

Very tempting

I'd do it! The standard gearbox isn't the slickest anyway. Would be like a 200HP go-kart. Apart from the ride.

James

addo · Unread post by **addo** » 14 Feb 2010, 23:15

What could be really sick, is using an '03-up Alfa GTA driveline. Six speed paddle shift!

Toby_HDi · Unread post by **Toby_HDi** » 14 Feb 2010, 23:21

addo wrote:What could be really sick, is using an '03-up Alfa GTA driveline. Six speed paddle shift!

Ahh yes, the Selespeed

Citroenmad · Unread post by **Citroenmad** » 14 Feb 2010, 23:27

Wow Jim, Another Activa, and a project too. Front looks tidy. All early S1s had sunroofs and no air con (optional i think?). Will you be keeping this one too Jim?

I miss a day or two on here and all is changed, CXs, Activa purchases, its all go

Chris.

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 14 Feb 2010, 23:27

Adam, perhaps not go that far but...

Toby_HDi wrote:I wonder if you could also somehow make the manual mode option work in a Xantia.

I'm thinking along the lines of Alfa 166 Sportronic. It's a ZF 4HP20 box but with a manual mode too though a different casing I believe. Find a way of sticking it in a V6 Activa - best of both worlds!

Not with the standard Xantia/406V6 ECU Toby but with a custom ECU it should be possible to write the software to implement a 4 speed paddle shift on a 4HP20.

It's well beyond my code-writing capabilities and electronic construction abilities (unless it could be made using valves) but the 4HP20 training manual explains pretty well the electrovalve sequences and timings. You could even go as far as manually selectable lock-up...

A paddle-shifting V6 Activa - what a thought

DickieG · Unread post by **DickieG** » 14 Feb 2010, 23:35

I'm with the Top Gear boys when it comes to flappy paddle gears

mere toys

BTW I've just noticed the increase in Emoticons available on the forum