CitroJim's AX, C3 Picasso, Cycling and Running Tales

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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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Pug_XUD_KeenAmateur wrote: 01 May 2018, 20:30 that's impressive to go up hills in that sort of fashion Jim. I'll usually hill-climb in the saddle in


I generally sit in the saddle until I get bored then stand and smash my bodyweight through the pedals in a reasonably high gear. All the spinning and 5x15 leg presses with 140kgs on (single leg!) means I have some decent power and speed when the mood takes me.
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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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bobins wrote: 01 May 2018, 20:41
What powers it ?

Legs ?
Electrickery ?
Internal combustion ?
Elastic band ?


Legs :)

James, No, not an RSW or anything Raleigh ;)

Not a Moulton either although I'd love one of those...

I may be able to pop some pictures up today, all being well...
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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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Does it have small arms attached to it ? :)
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bobins wrote: 02 May 2018, 10:14 Does it have small arms attached to it ? :)


No, it would have come from Worksop originally rather than Birmingham or Coventry, the traditional home of such things ;)
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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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One of these icons?

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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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NewcastleFalcon wrote: 02 May 2018, 16:56 One of these icons?

Regards Neil


Spot-on Neil =D> 8-) :-D

A Carlton...

I must go and get a picture of it now the weather is a bit better...

I warn you it looks a bit different to the one you found... Soon though it'll look just as good ;)
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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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CitroJim wrote: 02 May 2018, 16:59
NewcastleFalcon wrote: 02 May 2018, 16:56 One of these icons?

Regards Neil


Spot-on Neil =D> 8-) :-D

A Carlton...

I must go and get a picture of it now the weather is a bit better...

I warn you it looks a bit different to the one you found... Soon though it'll look just as good ;)


I sold one like that about a year before you started cycling Jim. I'd have gladly given it to you! It was my grandad's training bike. Weighed not much more than your carbon bike. All campag chainset and tub wheels. Lovely old thing really.
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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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Michel wrote: 02 May 2018, 17:15 I sold one like that about a year before you started cycling Jim. I'd have gladly given it to you! It was my grandad's training bike. Weighed not much more than your carbon bike. All campag chainset and tub wheels. Lovely old thing really.


They are very lovely :D

They're really sought-after now Mike and have a huge following on Facebook... It's good as I need to procure lots of bits for this one and the FB group will help enormously...

Here's the one with me...
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I stress it's not mine, I'm just doing the work as a project...

A project I'm going to enjoy immensely - I may even learn how to build wheels if it proves necessary...

The owner may just make himself known soon ;)
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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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Here's the one I had before they became sought after!

I put standard wheels on it when it had the child seat on!
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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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So yes, that would be my bike...

Has been in our family since the early 90s, becoming mine around 1995 or so when I got tall enough to ride the thing. It then went all over Aberdeenshire over the following 10 years or so. It has spent pretty much its entire life outside, so was looking "well weathered" even when I got it. Given that I had until the last couple of years near zero resources available to me, it was run on a shoestring - hence a piece of wire coathanger and some cable-ties replacing the bust spring in the gear mechanism (I'm not even trying to spell the correct technical term), and the saddle being replaced with something I had laying around in the scrap pile when the original fell to bits.

It fell into disuse around 2006 or so when I moved in to Aberdeen as I just didn't have anywhere for it to live in the flat.

Here it is around 2012 when I wheeled it out of the shed to do a bit of a stock take and see what it needed.
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Unfortunately what happened next was that my father decided to be "helpful." His vision of helpful being to take the thing entirely to pieces and give it one of the worst paint jobs in the history of the world. Given that he had serious memory problems I'm astonished that I didn't wind up missing anything critical. I count it a mercy that he couldn't get some bits apart.

I very hastily threw the majority of bits back on at that point so they wouldn't grow legs of their own and disappear and buried it sufficiently far at the back of the shed that he couldn't get at it to do any more damage.

Fast forward to 2018, and it's hopefully going to be restored to a properly functioning state now. Given the pounding the thing has taken in the past without bother (it was my only transport really between the mid 90s and when I first got access to a car in 2003) I've no real worries about it on the Redways, she's a tough old girl.

Once I've got a full mechanical assessment done I'll try to do something about the paintwork. I'm never going to get it spot on, but I'm hoping I'll be able to get to "looks reasonable from 10 paces" at least. Sadly I think stripping and going for the clearcoat approach for the mirror finish is out of the question (as that would both look the part and be pretty easy otherwise!) thanks to the damage my father did in attempting to remove the original surface corrosion etc. The top tube in particular is quite badly scratched unfortunately.

At the very least, it'll get a spray over with something that's slightly less drastically different to the original colours with a view to possibly get the paintwork sorted professionally later.

It's too good a bike to just sit rotting at the back of a shed.

I'm both looking forward to getting to ride the thing again, and likewise to seeing it being used by Jim for what it was designed to do, race.
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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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If you're going to paint it, do it right. Get Jim to strip it completely and send it away and get it re-enamalled properly. It's the only, and best way, and it will look fantastic. A proper place should be able to get period decals too..

It's not as horrendously expensive as you might imagine. By the time you've bought paint and materials to do it yourself, and made a not great job of it... £115 will get it done properly for you..

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If you're talking that sort of money, there's no excuse not to have it done professionally!
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It's definitely worth a proper professional paint job Zel :)
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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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I had a Carlton back in the 70's. It had a fully chromed frame. Allsop in Nottingham IIRC.?
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Re: Citrojim's Ka, Saxo and Bike Tales

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CitroJim wrote: 02 May 2018, 17:28
Michel wrote: 02 May 2018, 17:15 A project I'm going to enjoy immensely - I may even learn how to build wheels if it proves necessary...

I assume there are web pages to explain this now, but I used to have a book, well more like a pamphlet, and surprised myself by managing to rebuild a couple of wheels quite well, to about quarter of a millimetre of round and sideways movement when spun. So don't be daunted.

This was also a Carlton, bought secondhand in 1970 or 71 for £5, fixed up by my dad and me, and maybe a bit old even then - it had a John Bull front tyre and a steel Campag Gran Sport rear derailleur, which might nail down the dates a bit.