Citrojim's Pixo, Saxo and Cycling Tales

Deanxm · Post by **Deanxm** » 24 Apr 2011, 20:34

supercharged V6 sounds fun though doesnt it

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Post by **myglaren** » 24 Apr 2011, 20:43

They are supposedly great fun and equivalent to a 3L V6.

A very pretty car IMO, best one Mazda produced even if it is basically a tarted-up Mondeo.

Deanxm · Post by **Deanxm** » 24 Apr 2011, 20:47

............RX7

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Post by **myglaren** » 24 Apr 2011, 20:56

It's alright as far as it goes. Tries a bit too hard IMO.

CitroJim · Post by **CitroJim** » 24 Apr 2011, 21:00

Deanxm wrote:............RX7

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Very tempting and desirable

I always think Mazda are a bit of a Japanese Citroen really with their Wankel engines and the iconic MX-5. I also believe their tie-up with Ford has been very technically beneficial to Ford.

citroenxm · Post by **citroenxm** » 24 Apr 2011, 21:01

Ill have you know ACTUALLY that All mazda engines were god stuff!! Though lowley tuned..

Despite being 85% owned by Fraud in the 90's they retained their own identity and their own excellent engines during 90's

The 323F with pop up lights were also a brave design for a family 5 door and usd an excellent Twin Cam DOHC 16v engine for thr GT with 150bhp.. my sister had one it was fun..

So I think the opinion of did Mazda do anything decent other then Roatry is a bit harsh really! If they used Ztec, or CVH then fair enough..

Paul

CitroJim · Post by **CitroJim** » 24 Apr 2011, 21:04

I totally agree Paul, their engines are supurb. Is not the little 1250cc Zetec as found in 90s Festers a Mazda design? or is that the Yamaha one and the bigger Zetecs are Mazda designs. I know one of them is...

Yes, they dare to be a bit different and that's good, hence my liking them to a Japanese Citroen...

Deanxm · Post by **Deanxm** » 24 Apr 2011, 21:05

no pleasing some people is there

The 9 is actualy rather nice, and cheap maybe it will go for £600 but its a lot of car for the money and you could experience it for a few months with no loss of money too.

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citroenxm · Post by **citroenxm** » 24 Apr 2011, 21:06

Before All this Mazda cloned Ford business goes on..NONE of the 90's cars were related to any of the 90's Fords in the UK at LEAST..

Ford only had a finacial part in them... Mazda retained their own engines, suspension setups and body etc etc

The only "Clones" you get were over in Oz.. The Square 121, Kia Pride, Ford Fiesteva car was one that I know of..

That is Fiesteva, not Fiesta.. different cars..

I rate Mazda highly then.. but now, the DERVs are getting PSA engines through Ford. The Mazda 5 has the 1600 HDi through ford. So they are still ok.. Sadly though, they do now feature more Ford under pinnings..

Paul

citroenxm · Post by **citroenxm** » 24 Apr 2011, 21:08

Yes Jim, the 1.25 engine was Mazdas... the rest Frauds..

Oh, and DO NOT under estimate the Mazda MPS models... as it implies. Mazda Performance Saloon. I think the 6 was first, and shes a 250bhp machine!!

See entry above RE: Latest DERVs fitted..

Paul

Deanxm · Post by **Deanxm** » 24 Apr 2011, 21:08

ford allowed them to make a car that was by pure coincidence .2 seconds slower 0-60 than the Focus RS (i know what a coincidence) but 10k+ cheaper.

Considering how plastic the RS is thats damn good!

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CitroJim · Post by **CitroJim** » 24 Apr 2011, 21:14

citroenxm wrote:The Square 121,

Seen them, I know of at least one that was imported into the UK. There were two variants as far as I recall and one looked very, very similar to the MKIII Fiesta... It really was almost a clone...

Right down to how they rusted

citroenxm · Post by **citroenxm** » 24 Apr 2011, 21:19

Ah well, when the 1.25 engine came to Fraud, the Fiesta DID have the Mazda 121 CLONE badge, but we were into late 1990's then.. I missed that one

LOL..

Heres the Fiesta 121...

Heres the Kia Pride, mazda 121, Ford Fiesteva version..

Paul

XantiaMan · Post by **XantiaMan** » 25 Apr 2011, 07:21

citroenxm wrote:Yes Jim, the 1.25 engine was Mazdas... the rest Frauds..

Oh, and DO NOT under estimate the Mazda MPS models... as it implies. Mazda Performance Saloon. I think the 6 was first, and shes a 250bhp machine!!

Paul

I remember when this engine came out - It was a Ford engine developed by Yamaha, there was much song and dance about it at the time, there was a 1.4 and 1.6 variant as well as the 1.7 in the Puma.

Suppose its a bit like people assuming the 3 litre V6 in the Mondeo engine, its not, its a Ford USA lump.

citroenxm · Post by **citroenxm** » 25 Apr 2011, 07:47

Makes me laugh.. With a fraud u dont know whos engine u got.. The galaxy v6 is vw engine. The probe v6 is mazdas engine. And yes the mundaenios v6 is yet another one from the usa....

At least with citroen u know you have a 100% french car and not bits n bobs borrowed from all over the bloody place...

Paul