MPG comparisson between Xantias

[nick]

Around town I don't think I manage 40MPG, and I have never reached the magic 50. Wether or not this is because the estate is heavier I am not sure, but it is annoying when my brother can thrash his 03 Passat TDi and still acheive 50 MPG.

VAG TDis are ridiculously economical, seemingly regardless of how they are driven!
I find the HDi (Xsara) can be very economical, but it depends much more on the style of driving. On a longish motorway run (eg more of less the whole length of the M62) I find I can get 61-62 MPG, but that takes gentle acceleration, and not exceeding 65-70 MPH, except perhaps for very short occasional bursts.
With a mix it tends to get 51-54 MPG, but do lots of short journeys in cold weather, with some hard acceleration now and again, and it will drop to 40.
Its a little bit smaller & lighter than a Xantia though, so I expect the same engine in a Xantia may get 2 MPG or so less in the same conditions

[DickieG]

VAG TDis are ridiculously economical, seemingly regardless of how they are driven!

Apart from the latest Audi A6 2.7 TDi

[nick]

Apart from the latest Audi A6 2.7 TDi

Well, thats true

[deian]

No doubt they would do the same if we converted to LPG.

The price of LPG is fast going up. I'm sure I've seen 60ppl in some places. This doesn't make LPG a worthy candidate anymore, as the initial cost of setting up a petrol car for LPG is not getting cheaper either. Which makes paying back for the kit (by saving on running lpg), takes longer.

Remembering that LPG isn't as efficient as petrol, so it probably balances out at 80ppl compared to petrol.

I'm sure even I remember a time when petrol was 65ppl (and i'm only 27).

[fastred]

Just to add some more statistics from the two petrol Xantias I have owned:

1998 2.0l SX auto, 20k miles@32mpg

2000 3.0l Exclusive auto, 26k miles@28mpg

Well worth the slight difference in figures in order to have by far the nicer car.

The only other point is that motoring holidays in France only get the V6 up to around 32-33mpg, whereas the 2.0l would get up to 38 and my previous manual BX 1.6 would get to 45.

I don't think that it is because I drive the V6 harder, it is more that the consumption does not seem to change all that much with journey type. Anyone else with a V6 notice this?

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[myglaren]

No doubt they would do the same if we converted to LPG.

The price of LPG is fast going up. I'm sure I've seen 60ppl in some places. This doesn't make LPG a worthy candidate anymore, as the initial cost of setting up a petrol car for LPG is not getting cheaper either. Which makes paying back for the kit (by saving on running lpg), takes longer.

Remembering that LPG isn't as efficient as petrol, so it probably balances out at 80ppl compared to petrol.

I'm sure even I remember a time when petrol was 65ppl (and i'm only 27).

I remember when it was 5 shillings (50p) a Gallon! It was some time ago now though. - around 1963.

[deian]

I think the V6 is more economical considering it has 50% more cylinders/fuel injectors... plus 50% more capacity in the cylinders.

Comparing 32mpg for a 4 cyl 2.0i auto against a 6 cyl 3.0i that can do 28mpg, the V6 is far more economical don't you think.

I would certainly get another one! I did at one point think of getting a nice smooth 2.0i auto, but seriously, the 3.0i is a true beast for not much more fuel.

[reblack68]

5 Shillings is 25p, Steve.

When we got our first car in 1972 I believe it was 36p per gallon. The cheapest I can remember being aware of was 75p. It was still being sold in gallons when I passed my test in 1987 and it was £1.70ish.

[jonnydrumm1967]

I used to work as a petrol pump attendant about 21-22 years ago,then 10 quids worth was around 23 ltrs!

[myglaren]

5 Shillings is 25p, Steve.

When we got our first car in 1972 I believe it was 36p per gallon. The cheapest I can remember being aware of was 75p. It was still being sold in gallons when I passed my test in 1987 and it was £1.70ish.

You are right of course. Can't get used to this new money

[Penguin]

I remember the huge fuss kicked up when petrol hit the equivalent of £1 a gallon! They had recently changed to selling by the litre in an attempt to mask the fact that the pound barrier had been broken.

[f00lzz]

The following figures are with everyday running around, no long runs;
HDi estate 50 mpg
TD 44 mpg
V6 29 mpg
Activa 24 mpg

My V6 is averaging a little more.. but I do a lot of A38 / A50 approx 150 miles per day. I also use a BMW 523SE which (according to the computer) is averaging 29.1mpg. The big difference between the two is that the BMW is outperformed by any diesel you care to mention! and spends considerably more time having expensive repairs done (not impressed with BMW's).

[deian]

The 523i SE is a 2.5 24v, and is probably a heavy car compared to the Xantia, and only has 170bhp if I remember correctly. There is a 525i (again a 2.5i in that range too which has the 190bhp engine, maybe comparing that to the Xantia V6 would more fair.

A car with higher engine capacity would use less fuel to move weight around, hence the better economy of the xantia V6. I'd take the BMW any day.

[f00lzz]

The 523i SE is a 2.5 24v, and is probably a heavy car compared to the Xantia, and only has 170bhp if I remember correctly. There is a 525i (again a 2.5i in that range too which has the 190bhp engine, maybe comparing that to the Xantia V6 would more fair.

A car with higher engine capacity would use less fuel to move weight around, hence the better economy of the xantia V6. I'd take the BMW any day.

Hmm pity you don't still have your V6 then.. I'd consider a trade

[deian]

Yea, but if i had the V6 i'd keep it, but if i had nothing, i'd choose the bmw, not the 523 tho, but the 525.

Still, i don't know, the xantia v6 is more exclusive (hence the trim name) than the bmw, but the bmw has rwd, oh i don't know.

yes i do, if the bmw was manual then the story changes... shame the xantia v6 wasn't a manual over here!!