Diesel injection Pump,Xsara 1.9 D (serial No. 0460484137)

squifyrara · Post by **squifyrara** » 21 Feb 2007, 15:28

I am trying to hunt down a Diesel Injection Pump for my R reg Xsara. My local garage say it has to be serial No. 0460484137. I purchased the car for £1250 in september, had a new exhaust and brake shoes put on it, howver i've been told i need a new Diesel Injection Pump, my garage who i purchased the car from say that a new one with the fitting of it will set me back £1100. Am slightly desparate as i did'nt pay much more than that for the car! Any ideas or suggestions ( inc tracking down a 2nd hand one) would be much appreciated. Has anyone had this prob as well? Cheers

lolingram · Post by **lolingram** » 21 Feb 2007, 16:01

Are you sure that the garage has correctly diagnosed a faulty pump? VERY unusual indeed for even 300k miles XUD, let alone a low mileage one... if this is really the case, they can be had on eBay for £15 - £60GBP

...my garage who i purchased the car from say that a new one with the fitting of it will set me back £1100. Am slightly desparate as i did'nt pay much more than that for the car! Any ideas or suggestions (inc tracking down a 2nd hand one) would be much appreciated. Has anyone had this prob as well? Cheers

squifyrara · Post by **squifyrara** » 21 Feb 2007, 16:14

My garage say that water managed to get into the system and that the pump cant be repaired. so you reakon i just keep searching ebay? cheers

lolingram · Post by **lolingram** » 21 Feb 2007, 16:54

Yes... take a look here...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GENUINE-PEUGEOT-D ... dZViewItem

My garage say that water managed to get into the system and that the pump cant be repaired. so you reakon i just keep searching ebay? cheers

caveman_si · Post by **caveman_si** » 21 Feb 2007, 16:57

First of work out what type of pump it has either lucas or bosch and then find out youself what other pumps fit it and then go looking on ebay.

Eg my car currently missing a turbo due to the peugeot/citroens love of changing bits there is 8 possible turbos i can fit in a straight swap to replace the one thats broke. If I want i can use a turbo off a most of the xud range with slight modifications, giving me 20 turbos to choose from.

It the same with pumps they are interchangable between some of the cars but you do have to do your home work. And definetly check ebay as im sure there is 1 if not 2 injector pumps on Ebay at the moment..

squifyrara · Post by **squifyrara** » 21 Feb 2007, 18:41

yea its a bosch pump, my garage says it has to be the exact same pump and gave me the serial number, howeve do you think similar 1.9 D pumps from a peugeot or similar? cheers

Post by **Peter.N.** » 21 Feb 2007, 18:47

If its a mechanical pump any one should do, but if you fit a CAV/Rotodiesel, you will need to change the injector pipes as well.

jeremy · Post by **jeremy** » 21 Feb 2007, 22:21

Diesel injection pumps are well engineered bits of machinery - and as such are very reliable - and also very repairable.

There are many independent diesel specialists who make a living out of overhauling injection pumps and injectors - and it may be worth your while tracking one down and having a chat to see if they are likely to be able to help. I'd suggest yellow Pages as a good starting point.

Post by **Peter.N.** » 21 Feb 2007, 23:22

Hi Jeremy

If in fact it has been water damaged then the repair would probably be uneconomic, so a second hand one would be the cheapest option, but I have never heard of a Bosch pump be water damaged. I had a CAV one fail on a BX through water ingress, which caused the front bearing to fail, so you can imagine the mayhem that caused in the pump! Water damage is very unusual, I think I would like a second opinion. I would certainly agree with you regarding reliability, my previous XM had covered 292k when I sold it, and as far as I know the pump hadn't been touched.

jeremy · Post by **jeremy** » 21 Feb 2007, 23:55

Once I accidentally filled a Ferguson tractor with water contaminated fuel - from a can that had been stored outside. I drained the water out - cleaned the filter - and its still running 30 years later.

Not a good idea - and as I needed to use the thing I got the water out very quickly.

The water may have done some damage to the inerds of the pump - but how much I don't know. What I'm wondering is would someone who overhauled diesel pumps say that it was beyond repair - or say he could replace the bits that were likely to have been affected either with new or second hand or whatever.

I would have thought that was worth a few phone calls.

The problem that Squifyrara is going to have is I expect matching the electronics on the pump. An expert may be able to transfer the bits that do vary to another pump - for example keeping the car's electronics and using another mechanical bit.

Post by **Peter.N.** » 22 Feb 2007, 00:10

Ah, sorry, I didn't realise it was an electronic pump!

I used to run Perkins 4/108 engines in several conversions I did years ago. I had my own diesel tank then, and had problems with the throttle sticking on more than one engine and on more than one occaision. Sometimes it would stick open and sometimes would refuse to open, and occiasionally the engine would stop altogether. I subsequently found that the gasket was missing from under a plate on the top of the tank and every time it rained quite a quantity of water ran into the diesel, which was transferres to the vehicle when I filled it, so much so that the engine failure was due to the filter being full of water! but as soon as I got rid of the water on put fresh fuel in the pump/engine recovered immediatly with no lasting effects. Why can't they make them like that now! The pump was a Lucas DPA.

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