Lies, Damned Lies and the Haynes Manual

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Post by bxbodger »

I think a campaign should be started for the "Return of the Exploded Diagram".
Haynes used to nick the exploded diagrams from the factory workshop manuals- maybe its a copyright thing, but they have certainly dumbed down a lot these days, and the printing and photos are definately lower quality.A lot of the procedures they used to include they now don't, considering them to be to difficult-some of their 4 or 5 spanner procedures are relatively easy- I think they have fallen foul of nanny syndrome and think that if someones corpse is found with a set of spring compressors and an open manual then they'll get sued........ :roll:

I have two 205 manuals, a new one that I bought, and an old one that the bloke I bought the car off fetched round a couple of days later #-o -the earlier one is about twice as thick as the newer one.....

Any spares shop should have plus-gas in stock!!!
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Post by Stinkwheel »

I hate the new style manuals, harder to read, less info and less precise(if thats possible)

Glad i have old vehicles, at least they have matching old manuals.
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Post by oscarloco »

rory_perrett wrote:Rule of thumb - estimate how long a job will take, double it and then move up one unit of time.
Example - 5 mins = 10 hours, 1 day = a fortnight, although the odd job has still been know to over run.
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Murphy's time calculating law :lol:
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Post by Stewart(oily) »

I too have both old and new Haynes manuals and find the old ones go into more detail, I do seriously dislike the bit that then says Refer to section 2.1.7 then reassembly is the reversal..... The best ones I have come across are the old autobooks manuals, i had one for my old VW camper, even went into details of reconditioning lightbulbs :)
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