205 timing belt snapped

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jonc
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205 timing belt snapped

Post by jonc » 10 Jun 2004, 02:44

Hello
The timing belt on my trusty 205 (1.1, H reg) has gone, which I know on many cars can bend the valves. Does anybody know if that is the case on this particular engine, or if it should be ok if I replace the belt?
Thanks
Jon

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Post by bad driver » 10 Jun 2004, 13:15

Did it snap whilst driving? There isnt many engines that would be forgiving if a timing belt snapped. Only sure way to find out is either take the head off and look or put a new belt on and crank it by hand.

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Post by jonc » 10 Jun 2004, 14:10

Hello - thanks for the reply.
Yes - it snapped whilst driving on the motorway. I think I'm going to have to try a new belt and see what happens.

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Post by CITMAN » 10 Jun 2004, 19:48

I think the chances of you getting away with no damage to the engine after the cambelt snapped is zero. The fact the car was on the motorway and travelling at speed will increase the chances further of serious engine damage as the engine would have continued to turn out of synch and effectively the pistons would have bashed the valves stupid.
You could fit a new cambelt and perform a compression test to see if any internal damage has been done. Unfortuntely I think its off with its head to determine what damage has been done.

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205 timing belt snapped

Post by jonc » 10 Jun 2004, 21:09

Hello
I'm resigned to the fact its probably knackered now, but i'm going to take the head off for a look, mainly for the experience as i've not done this before. If its damaged the cost of fixing it will basically mean a new car, as its worth very little and is getting pretty tired.
I'm going to start looking for a 306 1.9D this weekend. I've heared they are pretty good, and the engines are capable of a high mileage if looked after.
Thanks
Jon

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Post by ralph » 11 Jun 2004, 19:16

Don't rule out the Citroen versions of the 306 – the ZX and Xsara. Both sell for peanuts compared to the 'trendier' Pug, but they're the same under the skin.

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Post by James.UK » 11 Jun 2004, 20:19

My sister has a p-306 same year-spec as my Citroen ZX (1993 1.9D) and having driven both cars I would NOT want to swop. But.. Get a pre June 1994 model without the dreaded ECU!! You should be able to find a very nice one for under a £1,000. [^]

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205 timing belt snapped

Post by philhoward » 11 Jun 2004, 21:32

As James.UK says, the ZX is the best kept secret about; a 306 but knocking on for half the price! Why do you think he's got 2 (I know the real reason, James!), and Jon the forum admin has a ZX TD?

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Post by bad driver » 12 Jun 2004, 13:52

Have you considered a TD? only one group higher on insurance, gives out the same economy and perform's so much better!!!
They can be picked up for as little as 700 now.

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Post by reblack68 » 12 Jun 2004, 14:08

Jonc- check your valve clearances before before ripping the head off, if they are very wide that tells you the valves are bent and the engine is fit for the bin. OK clearances mean there's a strong chance of the engine being OK. The valve clearance check saved me ripping the head off an Escort diesel engine, nobody would have put money on the engine surviving unscathed but it did.
I wouldn't bother trying to repair an engine like that, you would be cheaper and easier replacing the entire engine. Replace the belt on the new engine before it goes in.

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Post by jonc » 14 Jun 2004, 16:30

Thanks for all the replies. Bought a saab 9000 on the weekend - not economical, expensive to run etc, but I like it and the buying cost was cheap enough to allow for the running costs [:)]
I'm still going to look into the possibility my peugeot survived - I'll let you all know when i get some results..

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Post by arry_b » 14 Jun 2004, 16:40

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by jonc</i>

Bought a saab 9000 on the weekend - not economical, expensive to run etc, but I like it and the buying cost was cheap enough to allow for the running costs [:)]
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You reckon [?][}:)]
(Ex Saab owner........)

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Post by jonc » 15 Jun 2004, 18:14

fingers crossed - either it'll work out well or it'll be a painful mistake to learn from!

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Post by arry_b » 16 Jun 2004, 00:24

Electrics, especially the fuel pump relay, noisy gearbox, gearbox jumping out of gear in reverse (careful - box can lock up), wheel bearings, tyre wear, don't run it on cheap oil and let the turbo spin down (if it's a turbo model).
And watch out for the fuel consumption.
And the speed cameras !
Good fun cars though.

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Post by reblack68 » 16 Jun 2004, 01:02

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by arry_b</i>

Electrics, especially the fuel pump relay, noisy gearbox, gearbox jumping out of gear in reverse (careful - box can lock up), wheel bearings, tyre wear, don't run it on cheap oil and let the turbo spin down (if it's a turbo model).
And watch out for the fuel consumption.
And the speed cameras !
Good fun cars though.
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Do the 9000s suffer from dodgy reverse gear too? Remember the 9000 has a conventional (by modern standards) layout of transverse engine with gearbox bolted on the end.