106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU + a new one! help
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106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU + a new one! help
Heya , trying to code a radio for my little pug - but the kit I have wont read the engine ecu in PP2000? it works fine in lexia on my xantia?
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
You don't (read: can't) code your radio in on these with Lexia/Planet
They are a straightforward Clarion (typically) unit with a code. Not connected to diag at all.
I know where you are thinking though as 206's (later ones) you need to tell the BSi about a new radio.
You'll need to check the numbers / serial on the radio and obtain the code that way.
What year is the 106 ? Only post 2000 models actually have an engine ECU to control the pump timing**, earlier models are mechanical advance. later ones use electronic advance Bosch pump (engine code TUD5B) you'll know if you have one of these as there's a massive ECU sat on top of the battery.
**Pump control only it has no effect on the transponder system at all. Mine would not lock anyway.
They are a straightforward Clarion (typically) unit with a code. Not connected to diag at all.
I know where you are thinking though as 206's (later ones) you need to tell the BSi about a new radio.
You'll need to check the numbers / serial on the radio and obtain the code that way.
What year is the 106 ? Only post 2000 models actually have an engine ECU to control the pump timing**, earlier models are mechanical advance. later ones use electronic advance Bosch pump (engine code TUD5B) you'll know if you have one of these as there's a massive ECU sat on top of the battery.
**Pump control only it has no effect on the transponder system at all. Mine would not lock anyway.
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91 205D-Turbo, gone but still missed
02 106D, TUD5B, gone but not really missed apart from the MPG
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
hmmm I was told it needs to be VIN coded for the car?
and its a 2000 w reg 106
and its a 2000 w reg 106
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
100% not VIN coded, only multiplexed cars need the radio VIN coded & the 106 was never multiplexed.
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
So how can I decode it? I'VE tried a decoder and it said it's vin coded!
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
What radio do you have
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
Agree. We need to see what you have really.wheeler wrote:What radio do you have
The 'factory' one at that age is typically something like this:
Could be radio / cd or radio / tape obviously.
The 'surround' (complete with curious pen holder space) comes off its not part of the radio itself. Not shown in that pic.
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91 205D-Turbo, gone but still missed
02 106D, TUD5B, gone but not really missed apart from the MPG
91 205D-Turbo, gone but still missed
02 106D, TUD5B, gone but not really missed apart from the MPG
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
I used to give the serial number and model details (found on the back of the radio) and the car vin number to my local Peugeot Dealer and they would come up with a code, for a fee of course,£20 - £25 ?
Plenty of places online will do the same.
Plenty of places online will do the same.
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
That's a 206 or Citroen one without display. It will not work in a 106 (well not very well) as there's no display panel.Harlequin wrote:
it looks like that
The one you have *is* VIN coded yes but its not going to work in a 106.
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91 205D-Turbo, gone but still missed
02 106D, TUD5B, gone but not really missed apart from the MPG
91 205D-Turbo, gone but still missed
02 106D, TUD5B, gone but not really missed apart from the MPG
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
in the bin it goes then - time to get rid of the 106
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
Offer it here, may be of some use to someone.
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
I do have one in my loft if anyone can use it, given to me by someone I trust whom I'm confident wouldn't've bothered if it wasn't in GWO. Don't know the code thoughmyglaren wrote:Offer it here, may be of some use to someone.
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
That type (without a display) does not have a 'code to enter' as such from what I recall. The 'coding' when you fit these (to a multiplexed car with a separate display only) is done via the diag to just tell the BSi you have a 'new' radio. It does actually work without this coding but it bleeps (loudly) constantly via the speakers, as an 'anti theft' thing.Pug_XUD_KeenAmateur wrote:I do have one in my loft if anyone can use it, given to me by someone I trust whom I'm confident wouldn't've bothered if it wasn't in GWO. Don't know the code thoughmyglaren wrote:Offer it here, may be of some use to someone.
Having said that, you can hear the radio / cd / tape etc well enough to at least confirm its working correctly or not, but its not 'useable' as such until its coded. This is a bit like the 'test mode' you can do on some Clarion (possibly others) where you can make it work without the code for about 10 minutes, it does not save any station presets (on purpose) if you do this and it can also bleep about once every 30-60 seconds too but again its "alive enough" to determine if its a working unit or not.
Andy.
91 205D-Turbo, gone but still missed
02 106D, TUD5B, gone but not really missed apart from the MPG
91 205D-Turbo, gone but still missed
02 106D, TUD5B, gone but not really missed apart from the MPG
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Re: 106 zest 2 1.5D - cannot read engine ECU
teh radio does nothing and cd player whines but doesn`t load
well - got one if anyone wants !
and the son has a new one in the 106 now
well - got one if anyone wants !
and the son has a new one in the 106 now
Simon