Peugeot 106. 1999 1.1 Zest - FUEL Gauge not working

[Gregg1100]

Thanks Malcolm,
Is that repairable or dead ??

[citronut]

i have never managed to repair it, as its basically a plastic sheet with circuit tracks printed onto it,when i have tried soldering it the plastic melts ,

im sure Sir Jim will be along to tell otherwise, as he'z a clever old stick

[Gregg1100]

Seeing as you can remove the printed circuit sheet, why can't you be able to just buy the sheet.
The ignition switch works, as it can start the car, but with no warning lights for ign, oil, engine management, etc. Headlamp high beam and indicator lights work in dash.
NONE of the traces on printed circuit sheet are damaged; ie, not burnt away. Fuses behind glove box are ok- tested with battery and bulb, as are the heavy duty ones in engine compartment.
Are there any other fuses around, or an inline one near dash panel ??
When I put the replacement speed assy in car, there was a momentary burning smell and a quick puff of smoke, then no warning lights or fuel gauge. Clock works ok.

[citronut]

sounds like you need to purchase/find another instrument panel

[wheeler]

The fact that I know car makers can't even get the same coloured wire to go to a component without changing the colour is beyond me. So how do you check wiring with a BOL, in black and white ??

modern day PSA cars go by codes printed along the length of the wire rather than colour, the wiring diagrams show the colour codes printed next to the wire, they also show the colour code (in French) on the diagram, there should be a key in your BOL showing what colour each of the codes mean. When using the diagrams the colours should only be used as a rough guide, the codes on the wires take priority over the colours.

I think I touched the circuit board onto the steering shaft, it then died on me.
Thanks,
Greg

Done the same on a ZX years ago, now I always drape a rag over the steering column shaft before I lift the panel out, you did used to be able to buy the printed circuit separately for ZX's & AX's from Citroen, don't know about later models.

[citronut]

I always drape a rag over the steering column shaft before I lift the panel out

or better still disconnect the negative battery terminal

you did used to be able to buy the printed circuit separately for ZX's & AX's from Citroen, don't know about later models.

i checked in pug service box for the 106 flexi print but it does not show separately

[Gregg1100]

i checked in pug service box for the 106 flexi print but it does not show separately[/quote]

Is that just the housing without speedo, fuel gauge and clock ?? The two ignition wires go to some heavy connectors just under steering column, but can't get at them to see if any other fuses are there.

I don't want to get another speedo assembly just in case it does the same thing---will end up with more speedo housings than Peugeot. .

I need to also find out how to get glove box out of the way for easier access to cabin fuses- what a stupid place to site fuse box. Bloody french again.

[wheeler]

I need to also find out how to get glove box out of the way for easier access to cabin fuses- what a stupid place to site fuse box. Bloody french again.

Remember the car was designed as a LHD so there would be a little access panel by the steering column.
From memory the hinges on the 106 glovebox are just plastic pins that pull out then the whole glovebox can be removed.

[Gregg1100]

Got glove box lid off- thanks.
Reassembled car. Everything working EXCEPT fuel gauge, screenwashers, ign, oil, and engine management lights. Car starts ok, all other warning lights, indicator and heated screen etc is ok. Screenwashers maybe another story. ALL fuses are ok- checked individually with a battery and test light.
Just wondering if a relay has passed on ???. Been looking for an in- line fuse.
Someone on Ebay has advertised a 5 plug speedo assembly for a 106 Pug- came from a 1999 106 like mine, BUT mine has only 4 plugs, and they can only go on in the correct sections.
I think I will have to arm myself with the VIN number and go to Newport and see if any of the PUG part practitioners will play ball and help me out with this one.
When the replacement speedo assy originally turned up, I had to take it apart to transfer correct mileage clock and fuel gauge. When hooked up, and ignition turned on, the fuel gauge worked till a slight burning smell came from wiring loom. I had transferred said clock and gauge to the replacement head, but that was when I had burning smell.
I refitted said clock and gauge to the original speedo head- stuffed in the connector blocks, ign on, momentary fuel gauge movement, then burning smell again. Ign off bloody quick.
Since then, selective warning light operation. Car selects what it wants to show, lol. Perhaps if I show it some explosive and detonator, maybe it will behave itself.
More will undoubtably follow------

[Gregg1100]

Same saga- months in passing
Once again , checked all fuses, examined all the wiring loom covers for signs of rubbing against metal and shorting out- nothing.
There are some heavy white wires and another colour going to like a connector bolted to just under steering column--they look as if they could contain a fuse, but can't get them apart.
There is no visible sign of breaks in the printed circuit board- I went over it with a jewelers glass. I need to sort this out so I can get it MOT'd and gone.
Is anyone aware of any hidden inline fuses on these little cars, please.????]
Also, how does one check wiring with a multimeter, measuring resistance, when there are umpteen different wires going off in different directions branching off the wire you are trying to check. And why is modern cars wiring so pitifully thin- no wonder they catch fire far quicker than old cars ??