206 HDI 1.4 OR 2.0?

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206 HDI 1.4 OR 2.0?

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HI all, I am currently looking to buy a 206 HDI and need advice choosing between 1.4 and 2.0 I do about 20 miles a day and would also be travelling from the midlands to Aberystwyth once a month ,I would also use it for the odd camping trip for my son and myself , I like the idea of the great economy of the 1.4 but would it be underpowered,do both Have dmf and dpf any advice will be greatly appreciated.
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My probably unhelpful advice would be to buy a petrol, perhaps a C3 , depending on your budget. Petrol is cheaper than diesel, with the smaller cars there's not that much difference in mpg in normal driving, and there's none of the amazingly complex systems on the petrol engined cars.
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I agree petrol may be cheaper.

If you really did want a diesel, I had the same concern a while back too. I looked at it like this (not all points may be correct)

Although the 1.4 was new the last time I tried one, it did not seem slower to be honest, certainly town driving etc you'd not really notice only higher speeds.

Road tax cheaper with 1.4

2.0 engine a bit easier to work on, although its bigger you don't have to start moving stuff about the engine bay (ie coolant bottle) to get to oil filter etc, having said that there is less room in the engine bay I guess its because parts you want to get at are exposed more compared to the 1.4

As the 2.0 unit has been around a lot longer used spares are easier to come by

I don't think the 1.4 has the rubber crank pulley that plagues the 2.0 unit

I don't think the 1.4 has a DMF either

Cats can clog on the 1.4 sometimes and EGR's can coat up (to be fair the latter can happen with the 2.0)

Personally I'm 50/50 on either, they both have their advantages disadvantages. I'd not look really closely at road tax differences although substantial, if the cheaper engine costs more in parts over a year you're worse off not better.
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As far as I am aware this uses the 90hp version of the 8 valve 2.0. Hdi engine which is the most reliable engine you can get, I don't think it has a DMF or particulate filter which makes it even better, correct me if I am wrong someone. The fuel consumption of the 110 bhp version can be over 60 mpg in a bigger car so if I am correct that would be the way to go.

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I'm sure there's no DMF on the early ones, I'm not sure of the later 2.0's though. The 206 2.0HDi's are all 90's.

Personally I'd avoid the 1.6 unit, although there are not many 206's with this fitted.
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I think the DMF is only fitted to the 110 hp.

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Thanks for your advice and sorry its taken so long to come back im going for the 2.0 when I find a good low mileage one thanks again , Ian
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I used to have a 2003 206 2.0HDi, it performed very well and I would average 50-55mpg even driving briskly. I had 65MPG a few times when trying for economy. It was a great car and I did enjoy having it, in fact I often wish I still had it as it was great fun to drive, very reliable and economical.

The 2004 C2 1.4HDi I have now is not slow but obviously nothing like the 2.0HDi 90 in the 206. It is a little better on fuel, averaging around 60MPG and its refined once warmed through. It benefits from cheap road tax, lower insurance and better MPG. However, as I have found, injector seal failures are very common on this engine and they are nothing like as easy to replace as they are on the 2.0HDi - which is not at all as common a problem. It would seem every 1.4HDi will blow its injector seals at some point.

The 2.0HDi is the more proven and more reliable engine, I would get one of those and forget about the 1.4HDi. While the 1.4 does drive well its not without issues.

A 1.1 or 1.4 petrol will give somewhere near 40-45MPG and while petrol is cheaper its not enough to make the petrol cheaper to fuel. However there is more choice of them to buy, they are often found with lower miles and they cost less to buy too. I do quite a few miles so went for a diesel.
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Citroenmad wrote:The 2004 C2 1.4HDi I have now is not slow but obviously nothing like the 2.0HDi 90 in the 206. It is better on fuel, averaging around 60MPG and its refined once warmed through. It benefits from cheap road tax, lower insurance and better MPG
Glad you said that about the rd tax and ins as Mike didnt mention it....ie £30 a year (depending when it was built/registered) is a no brainer if you're looking for economy.

A mate had a 207 1.4 petrol about 3 years ago and was shocked how s**t the mpg was, I said "thing is, yes you've got a small engine, but the shell's are all the same size so it's got more to do get moving"....he didnt have it long
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Defiantly the 1.4 is the pick of the bunch, we own a C3 hdi, that is about to go over 300,000 miles, it still does well over 60 mpg, it is so good , we never check the mpg.
The little unit just gets better and better, you would think it is a 1.6 turbo it is so fast.
I think the saviour was egr blanking off early in its life, the engine stays clean inside.
The 2.0 hdi 206 is a mess in my opinion, not fast, not economical enough, high road tax, and too big and heavy an engine for that car.
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I just (in my personal opinion nothing more) think the RFL band should not be the "be all and end all" of it as parts for the 2.0 are a bit easier to find with it being fitted to more models really and it appears slightly easier to service (component location)

I think its just the way my mind works, I tend to look at things like this as personally I'd have to do it all myself (with no garage or driveway!) :oops:

I'm aware that the EGR should be blanked asap on these if possible really and that may also stop the cat from clogging too.

I do sort of agree the 2.0 is a bit 'heavy' for the small car though and also the 1.4 is quite lively enough in most cases anyway.


What is interesting is they stopped fitting the DW8 to it in '01 although that engine survived in the vans (Berlingo / Partner) up until about 06 if not longer although in the 206's that unit does need a few tweaks to liven it up slightly just to XUD standards.
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