405 TD Resurrection
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405 TD Resurrection
This old lady has been in my garage for 2 years without being started. I'm keen to get it moved out to make way for my broken 406, but I can't get it started. The starter motor turns very slowly, if I persist I get a puff of smoke from the negative terminal connector on the battery so obviously something is getting very hot. Battery is a newish Bosch S5 with a fresh charge. I whipped the starter out and cleaned up the solenoid connectors and bench tested it, it spins fine and doesn't draw excess current when doing so. I've removed and cleaned the gearbox earth connector. I'm convinced it's an earth issue, but I'm not sure what is the next likely culprit, any pointers? I seem to be collecting Peugeots that won't start.
'96 405 1.6 GLX with 306 GTI engine on Cat cams @ 195bhp
'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k
'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k
'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
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Re: 405 TD Resurrection
High resistance in the battery clamp Ally... Getting a very common Xantia problem now...
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Re: 405 TD Resurrection
As Jim says, the clue is in the smoke, fit some new battery terminals, it will do it the world of good.
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Re: 405 TD Resurrection
Another vote for the terminals, usually can get warm too. 205 did this (it had those factory fitted plastic 'wing' type quick release nuts) , removed and replaced with a standard clamp no problems afterwards.
Slightly covered here too > http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... 11&t=43319" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Slightly covered here too > http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... 11&t=43319" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: 405 TD Resurrection
Thanks guys, I actually read that sticky in the Citroen forum a few minutes after posting! I'm going to out and investigate now.
'96 405 1.6 GLX with 306 GTI engine on Cat cams @ 195bhp
'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k
'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k
'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
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Re: 405 TD Resurrection
Bah.....
Terminal wires looked in good health. I hooked up the positive and negative leads from the battery directly to the starter with jump leads and shorted the solenoid to spin it. Same unenthusiastic result. So despite running fine on the bench, it seems it's not up to the task of spinning an engine. That probably means that instead of a well earned long lie tomorrow morning I'll be out foraging in scrap yards for a replacement
Terminal wires looked in good health. I hooked up the positive and negative leads from the battery directly to the starter with jump leads and shorted the solenoid to spin it. Same unenthusiastic result. So despite running fine on the bench, it seems it's not up to the task of spinning an engine. That probably means that instead of a well earned long lie tomorrow morning I'll be out foraging in scrap yards for a replacement
'96 405 1.6 GLX with 306 GTI engine on Cat cams @ 195bhp
'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k
'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k
'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
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Re: 405 TD Resurrection
If its the type of starter with a reduction gear, taking it apart, cleaning and greasing it will often restore it to life.
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I nicked a starter off a scrap 406 this morning and fitted it. She fired into life no problem and ran perfectly like she was started yesterday. A real buzz firing up an old diesel that's been sitting all this time She's a long long way from being drivable but I have big plans for this old lady, I'll start a thread when there is progress to report.
'96 405 1.6 GLX with 306 GTI engine on Cat cams @ 195bhp
'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k
'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k
'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
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In the past: 3, CX td Safaris and about 7, XM td estates. Lovely cars. - x 1207
Re: 405 TD Resurrection
Very nice car the 405 td especially the estate, there are still quite a number on the road down here. The 406 is even better but not as easy to repair.
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