1.9TD Timing Belt Failure :(

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Re: 1.9TD Timing Belt Failure :(

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Instructions > http://www.eastment.net/Boschpump2.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You can tell simply by if you can see the stop solenoid (near the outlet pipes) or not, if its covered with thick metal box it needs sorting ;)


I have heard of it being done in situ ( ! ) with a dremmel to just gain access (ie: not quite 100% right) but that's a bit risky in some cases.
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Thanks for the link, i've read the first page which deals with the armour and exposing the solenoid but the next page goes into stripping the pump? What are we actually trying to do with the soloniod? What should it look like when you put it back on?

This is the pic from ebay of the engine.

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The second page you don't need. :) This is one of those jobs that may fill you with dread and take ages but the second time around it will be very easy as you'll know what you're doing if that makes sense.

I cannot see it from that pic, although its probably amoured, the right hand end of the pump near the large plastic air piping its under that.

This is what an armoured one looks like > http://www.eastment.net/Images/Pump/P1010002.JPG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is it without the amour > http://www.eastment.net/Images/Pump/module.JPG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (the module is exposed)

This is an unprotected one > http://www.eastment.net/Images/Pump/solenoid.JPG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; , although in most cases as per pics on that link you can get at the solenoid once the amour and module is off.
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Thanks Andy, I've got the armor bit but what I'm trying to understand is once we've removed the armor what I actually need to do to make it work. Do I just remove / disconnect the module or do I need to do something to the solenoid.
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Re: 1.9TD Timing Belt Failure :(

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I haven't actually seen one but I assume that it has a normal fuel solonoid inside, once you have removed the electronics you just connect an ignition feed to the terminal.

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Peter.N. wrote:I haven't actually seen one but I assume that it has a normal fuel solonoid inside, once you have removed the electronics you just connect an ignition feed to the terminal.

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Yes that's correct in *most* cases, some of the Lucas ones have a um "tube thing" for want of a better description that you have to replace with a normal stop solenoid (there's an issue with that but that's out of this topic so I'll not clutter it with that)
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a4gom wrote:Thanks Andy, I've got the armor bit but what I'm trying to understand is once we've removed the armor what I actually need to do to make it work. Do I just remove / disconnect the module or do I need to do something to the solenoid.
Essentially its as those three photo's show. Remove armour, remove black module and solenoid is underneath, then you just need an ignition live feed for it. If one is not present (as you only need it to work in "position 2") then the reverse light switch wiring is quite suitable on some vehicles, certainly a 206 is wired this way.

The 'difficult' bit is getting the armour off without damage to the pump (as per the link you will need one bolt from the scrapyard in most cases)
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All clear now, thanks for your help.
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Re: 1.9TD Timing Belt Failure :(

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That looks like an ECU controlled engine - if yours is not then it may be better simply to swap the pumps over so your 'new' engine is running on the old pump - in fact it may be better to do this anyway, as then you don't have to worry about de-armouring the 'new' pump.
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Re: 1.9TD Timing Belt Failure :(

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A4, I would still try and put a second hand cam in first ?
grab a cam from a wrecker and some (oiled) cam bearing caps.. the difficult bit will be seeing how free the cam is to turn, with all of the valves in there.. as one lobe will always be touching a bucket... but it ius quite obvious.. either it turns or it doesn't.. when the caps are tight..

I successfully changed my central cap with a spare 40,000 ago..
worth a try first, keep the engine as a spare?
obviously you would need to retime the belt.. etc

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