EXPERT VAN 1.9D ENGINE SWAP TO TD ADVICE NEEDED

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EXPERT VAN 1.9D ENGINE SWAP TO TD ADVICE NEEDED

Post by YETI » 10 Aug 2010, 18:28

Hi i am planning to fit a td engine to my na peugeot expert van.

Ive got a peugeot expert 1.9 1997 r reg xud9 and i dont know exactly which engine will be best as a donor. I was thinking Citroen zx 1.9 td from a similar year, i was planning on buying the whole car . can anyone advise me if this is possible. Was thinking of keeping the existing gearbox.
And i wanted a bosch fuel pump and a garrett turbo if possible.

Or are there any more suitable cars i could use.

many thanks

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Post by spider » 10 Aug 2010, 18:41

It would be best to use the TD box with the TD engine really :) , you can use the NA box with the TD , it should go like a rocket but fuel economy will be worse, it will be noisier and top speed will be reduced (so sensible (legal!) cruising speed will use more fuel)

Not sure how swappable the gear linkages are as Experts have that strange (and expensive) cable arrangement from what I remember.

If going to TD, you will need more plumbing as the intercooler is not sat atop the engine in the Van (it is in the car as the bonnet scoops air into it) its sat at the front, 406 style next to the radiator (again, this is from memory)

Year does not matter 'that' much really, you may probably have to de-amour the pump to avoid issues anyway.

I know that's not a lot of info but its a start :)

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Post by YETI » 10 Aug 2010, 20:21

Thanks for that , i will do the gearbox as well then, just thought it would be easier to leave it in. Also read somewhere that the drive shafts were stronger on the td?

So are the engine mounting holes the same on all xud9's but just different mounts according to vehicle? So i could just use my existing peugeot expert engine mountings..

would i need to use the zx manifold and would it join straight on to my existing exhaust ?

Is there a certain year when the electrics get more complicated or would that be fairly straight forward.

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Post by YETI » 10 Aug 2010, 20:24

Thanks for that , i will do the gearbox as well then, just thought it would be easier to leave it in. Also read somewhere that the drive shafts were stronger on the td?

So are the engine mounting holes the same on all xud9's but just different mounts according to vehicle? So i could just use my existing peugeot expert engine mountings..

would i need to use the zx manifold and would it join straight on to my existing exhaust ?

Is there a certain year when the electrics get more complicated or would that be fairly straight forward.

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Post by Wookey » 22 Oct 2010, 14:11

Perhaps a bit late but I did this exact thing about 4 years ago. It'll be documented on here if the old posts were carried over from then.

There are some pics here: http://wookware.org/pics/van/

I used a Xantia 1995 engine from a very helpful member of this site and the existing gearbox plus a load of spares from a donor 806 and some bits I had to buy from the specialist Expert scrappy in the midlands. The job is awkward because more things change than you might expect. You need a fatter exhaust and some different fuel pipes and the intercooler and various air pipes. You need to cut a corner off the NA gearbox flange to get the turbo intake pipe past and the gearbox bracket needs completely re-arranging becauase on the old layout the old cables go straight through where the air pipe is. That's the hardest part of the conversion. So changing the gearbox too (and that bracket!) will be easier - but that _may_ give you bigger driveshafts. Certainly the 806 donor had larger drivshafts (and thus hubs and intermediate bearing).

It has all worked great for some years though so it's quite do-able. It wa s a 5-weekend job in my case (as a I painted all the subframe whilst it was accessible).