406 2 button plip key.

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406 2 button plip key.

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I've recently bought a 406 (97 on a P) Unfortunately the remote central locking doesn't work off the key,which I believe is a common problem.I took my key to a Peugeot main stealer to get it checked out,and their prognosis was it wasn't giving out a signal (they have a box of tricks to test for this) So how much is a new key then? I asked.£97 something to you sir!! plus a charge to get the code from Peugeot themselves,as the blue 'code card' was not passed onto me when I bought the car.
So I purchased 2 plip keys off e bay,took them to the main dealer to get them checked,great they both emit a signal!!
According to them though, once a key has been programmed it cannot be done again,so they said I'll have to buy a brand new receiver,and 2 key fobs for £250 ish!!
Does anyone know if this is right or are they just trying to take me for a ride? Is there another way around it ie could I get an aftermarket alarm fitted which would work the central locking remotely,and by pass the keypad immobiliser?
Any help greatly appreciated!
ps I never had any problems with my old 405 infra red system!!
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Post by PowerLee »

Im pretty sure that RF keys can be reprogramed to work another 406.
Also the RF keys can be programed to unlock the keypad for one minute.
The infra red system is very very easy to bypass & the whole 405 security system was a joke untill June 1995!
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Post by sixpot »

I hope they can be re-programmed,if not I'll just stick to unlocking the doors manually!!
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Post by chriswales6 »

Hi
For some reason last year the remote key on my 98 306 stopped working and both my main and spare remote key wouldn’t re-program. My local dealer also tried to re-program a key and said that it needed a new receiver then they quoted around 100 pounds, I said it’s okay I’ll stick with putting the key in the door.
Anyway to cut a long story short .... I fixed it by disconnecting the battery for half an hour. Then both of my keys could be reprogrammed, it did make me wonder if that’s all the dealer was going to do and charge me 100 pounds.
I don’t know if it would work on a 406, but it can’t hurt to give it a go. If you still have the original radio make sure that you have the code to unlock it.
Cheers
Chris
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Right then,I'll certainly be giving that a go!!
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Nope that didn't work!
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Post by chriswales6 »

Bugger, that’s a shame. ‘Rebooting’ my 306 got the remotes working again. I did have to do the old spare key in the ignition re-programming trick, but it’s been fine for almost year …. mind you I maybe tempting fate here.
Sorry, but I don’t have any other advice I can give you. I guess you either have to give a shed load of money to a dealer or just keep using the key in the door method.
But I must admit after being used to the remote opening you do feel like a second-class citizen have to use the door lock. Those two months when mine was not working was hell [8)]
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Post by Brilec »

Just bought a 93 306 and got three plips with it. Unfortunately only one worked. Tried the reprogamming trick - spare key in ignition - and now the second plip works and the first no longer. The third had dud batteries, which I haven't replaced yet.
Perhaps tomorrow I will disconnect the battery, or a sutable fuse to reset the whole lot. But it sems as if it will only accept one plip at a time. All are the two button deadlocking type.
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Post by PowerLee »

The plip depends on the car its programmed to really, Some 106s have 2 button plips & they never had deadlocks fitted.
One button locks & the other button unlocks.
It also depends what plips you have, Infra red or RF as to how they are programed in.
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Post by sixpot »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the ignition re-programming only applies to infra red type keys,and not the RF (radio frequency) type my 406 has.Incidentally the big button on mine operates the locks and the little button operates the deadlocks.
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Post by PowerLee »

Also remeber not all 406s had RF plip, Some of the early low spec L & LXs had the 2 button infra red plip.
Give this a whirl & see if this helps with your plip problem.
http://www.andyspares.com/discussionfor ... C_ID=11286
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Post by sixpot »

I'm pretty sure mine is RF.There would be a little IR 'bulb' on the plip if it was an infra red one? And theres no receiver unit on the overhead console.
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Post by PowerLee »

The RF receiver is behind the glovebox area on the 406.
Yes the infra red plips have a little bulb on them.
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Post by sixpot »

Without having an actual look at the receiver,is it in an accessible place, ie easy to do?
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Post by PowerLee »

Hi
Yeah its fairly easy to get to, Its behind / below the glovebox, Its shown in the Haynes book of lies for the 406.
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