C5 X7 rear suspension fun.

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Re: C5 X7 rear suspension fun.

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This one's a bit awkward with the additional suspension ECU - but from what I can see, the CAN wiring is only on the Suspension ECU part on top of the BHI unit, which has a 32 Pin black connector.

The other 2 sockets are the power for the pump motor:
(1) Is the Integrated Hydraulic Block (BHI)
'a' is the suspension ECU (but you also have another one that deals with the 4 height sensors and the variable power steering) - but ignore that for now.
Susp B.PNG
This is for the Electric Pump Motor Command which should be one of the 2 connectors on the left.
Susp A.PNG
This is a 2 pin black connector and should be the (7739): central electronic block motor.
B7739 in Pin 1 is the Battery Positive that goes to a relay
M7730 in Pin 2 is the Earth
7111 in Pin 2 also is the Electric Pump Motor Command:- so is this the paired wire you are talking about?

7739 should be on the unit according to the location:
Susp C.PNG
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Re: C5 X7 rear suspension fun.

Post by ActivaV6uk »

Yep 7111 is damaged (frayed internally) it looks like there should be a green cable on pin 1 too. The power cable b7839 and m7739 need to be pushed away from the pump body/to th wing and they almost always kick the pump in.

We did a long drive yesterday, with these held in place the back didn't drop. I need to get the tank out I think and repair the cabling in this area.
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Ok, so at least you have the identification on the wires now. :)
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Ok so you have had the pump out, cleaned it (have photos will try and upload them at some point). I checked the wiring and it looks ok. I did find something though and I wasn't sure if the clean would be enough. On the motor there is a little (7739) PCB sandwiched between an aluminium mount and a plastic top this is what the wires above plug into. Shoving this forwards/backwards (depends when you do it) kicks the pump in under force when force removed the pump most of the time stops. I didn't dismantle this, when I started to it took more force than I was willing to put into it. This has to be where the issue is. Something in there is loose or has a dry joint. The bad news is I couldn't test the pump with the supply tank off so I have the whole thing back together now. I may see how I feel in a little bit and take it apart again. But I did wonder if anyone has ever taken this apart before?
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There are some videos of pump rebuilds - but that was for the LDS leaking into the bushes and creating a right mess leading to overheating. So not sure that will be any use as yours will be a different issue no doubt.
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Marc, are you able to get me the part no for the pump that fits my car? The labels on mine are blank, I may buy a compatible one and re program it.
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It's 5277K5 Andy. Important to get this one if you want to avoid configuring it :) ... or replace the ECU with the one from your original BHI (assuming that's not dodgy either of course).
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Marc, have you got exploded diagrams of the coolant pipe s on the 2.7 there is a low down metal pipe that has corroded on mine it's on the passenger side if it helps. Citroen have ordered the wrong part! So after over a week of waiting I am still screwed.
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These? Advise of item if you need part number / prices.
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Interesting that's not the one for my car, on mine it's part 11 on the 2.7. is there any where you can recommend to get these sorts of parts at a reasonable price?
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I just realized what that diagram is, sorry I was talking engine coolant.
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Here you go - tell me the items you need part numbers for Andy:
X7 27 Coolant.PNG
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The greyed out part upper left that is very long and I believe between the 2 turbos or heads
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Right, those are part of the Exhaust Gas Cooling circuit:
Andy EGR Cooling.PNG
15 Part 1618K4 (Gas Recycling Tubes)
16 Part 1618K5 (Ditto)
17 is the EGR Flange Seal Part 1618L0
18 is the Tube Collar 1618Q4

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Re: C5 X7 rear suspension fun.

Post by AJM C5 »

Hi,

I could well do with a picture of the rear suspension actuator arm in closed/lowered position for a 2009 2.0 HDi C5 X7.

Or a diagram might help otherwise.

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