Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by myglaren » 01 Jan 2018, 07:13

That's odd as I had a major leak a couple of months ago, ruptured pipe, and bought five litres from Halfords which was green. Not quite LHM green but definitely not orange.

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by spiff » 01 Jan 2018, 18:26

GiveMeABreak wrote:
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Spiff, these are the Citroen main dealer part numbers, so you can call your nearest dealer, give them these numbers and they will order them in if they don’t already have them in stock. I can’t help you with regards to the seal you need without seeing it, so you have the lot here for reference.

Yes they are all separate to answer you question and if you look on the diagram they each go in a particular location on the ram. So it might be prudent to order one of each of 7,8 & 9.

Hallo Marc,

I have requested a quote from https://www.pentagon-group.co.uk

Also tried emailing Plieades but it bounced back, I will tyr the telephone number on Tuesday.

There are I believe two sizes the 37mm being for the saloon, the vin number should have sorted the correct one for the estate which is larger ?

Tried a Citroen site but could only find M3 parts.

Have any members a set of C5 2003 seals for the rear suspension ram that they would like to part with, for suitable renumeration : )

It is just a thought as I have heard that sellers sell them in packs : )

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by GiveMeABreak » 01 Jan 2018, 19:44

The part numbers I have given you are correct for your specific car (hence the request for your VIN). If you don't have a Citroen Dealer near, try a Peugeot Dealer - they can order from the same part numbers for you.

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by lexi » 01 Jan 2018, 20:05

If you try these blokes: https://dealer.citroen.co.uk/chorley
http://www.luffield.com/
The former has certainly sold me individual seals as I have the 3 for a single unit here for spares. Busy work shops like these 2 here, usually have the packets opened from previous work. A new unit can be had for £150 if it were to come to it.
From here: http://www.eurocarcare.net/rear-suspension/page/2/

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by spiff » 01 Jan 2018, 22:25

Thank you for the links, I have just contacted Luffield and Eurocarcare.

I could not locate a spares link on dealer.citroen

Eurocarcare list a kit but it does not fit the estate car as the seals are bigger.

I shall see what transpires : )

Not keen on spending much as the car as it was a temporary one I paid £200 for.

It has a ratterling cat, intermittent auto gearbox fault, 150000 miles and no sign of a recent cam belt change, intermitent problem with the suspention pump not running and two badly dented doors and the rear wing : )

Nice leather seats though and the CD player is working fine. LOL.

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by GiveMeABreak » 02 Jan 2018, 00:07

You can’t order the parts on their public website Spiff, a call will do it though and they may post to you for a small charge if you ask them.

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by spiff » 02 Jan 2018, 01:14

Thank you Marc,

dealer.citroen did not appear to offer spares.

Is dealer.citroen the one you are suggesting will sell parts via a telephone call ?

I have used the contact forms and email for fours sites using the part numbers you kindly supplied.

All the forms requested the cars details and the sites said that they supplied spares.

Most company's offer carriage now, he said hopefully.

I had hoped eBay sellers would be offering a kit, we purchase most things via eBay, their help if things go wrong is great as long as you follow the rules to the T : ).

When ever I have to buy from sellers outside eBay and something goes wrong it can be difficult

Will wait and see if anything transpires tomorrow, when hopefully they are open again.

I have ordered 2ltrs of LDS for £13.61 on eBay.

Do you happen to know where the bleed nipple is to depressurise the system, the instruction I have say that it is next to the ride height adjuster ?

I can only think of the switch near the hand brake.

Haynes manuals are fine but often the image is of a small area which is hard to place : )

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by GiveMeABreak » 02 Jan 2018, 11:15

Most main businesses will have been closed over the holidays, so you won't get a reply from the parts department - they should all be back today.

On your car with H3+ the detensioniong screw is under the Centre sphere as per (4) in the diagram.

If you are not using a diagnostic tool to depressurise:
  • Raise the car to high
  • Remove the LDS tank cap
  • Loosen rear wheel nuts
  • Use the jack to lift the car slightly to remove the wheel concerned
  • Support the rear of the car on axle stands and chock the front wheels
  • Lower the suspension to the lowest setting and leave the engine idling for at least 3 minutes
  • Switch off engine (I would disconnect battery temporarily - to ensure pump cannot run just in case)
  • Then you can undo the detensioning screw by one turn and wait for the pressure in the hydraulic circuit to fully fall.
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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by lexi » 02 Jan 2018, 12:07

The link for the dealer in Chorley. If you email and phone spares and deal with Philip Rigbye, he will give you prices and an invoice from paypal to let you click the button. It is then posted and as good and easy as ebay sale.

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by spiff » 02 Jan 2018, 19:22

Thank you Marc for the part numbers and instructions and to Lexi for the links.

Also to all other that spent their time to help, it is very heart warming : )

eurocarcare came back and have made up a kit for the 40mm estate car version, which will be available from tomorrow the 3rd.

£12.60 inc postage : )

God Bless you all Spiff

Link below : -


Hi Allen,

Thank you for your enquiry, and a Happy new year to you too.

Right now we do not stock the seals for this ram, but we have put together a kit which will be in stock from 3rd Jan.

Yes, those seals are correct and should be all you need unless you need to replace the gaiter and/or fluid. Links for both are on the same page:

http://www.eurocarcare.net/lds-hydrauli ... -40mm.html

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by wurlycorner » 02 Jan 2018, 22:13

There must be a simpler way of ensuring the pump doesn't run, without causing the need for a bsi reset (due to disconnecting the battery)?

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by GiveMeABreak » 02 Jan 2018, 23:38

Not really, - this is the official recommended method when using the diagnostic tool - and I mentioned it as a precaution - as you wouldn't want to have the pump engage accidentally when the cat treads on the suspension switch... whilst you are under it working on the system.

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by spiff » 03 Jan 2018, 00:19

High winds here our weather station just hit 60 mph : )

A while back I cut into the thin lead that feeds command signals to the pump and brought both ends out to a block connecter.

The block connecter is linked, I did this to see if the intermittent fault I have when the pump refuses to run was a lack of signal or the pump itself.

It is a lack of signal as feeding 12 volts to the thin signal cable will start the pump in the fault condition.

I can now just remove the strap on the block connecter to stop any chance of the pump running while working on the car, as Marc suggested.

Just pulling the plug out would also do it : )

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by GiveMeABreak » 03 Jan 2018, 00:21

Yes, just doing the Elf 'n' Safety

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Re: Citroen C5 2003 dripping fluid from passenger rear suspension ram boot

Post by spiff » 04 Jan 2018, 20:01

A couple of hose clips in case I cannot re-use the original one : )

Only sold in two's.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301687199196

That is the last part on order, all I have to do now is persuade Alanna to fit them when they all arrive : )

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