check your actuator fluid level

[renagade]

Hi Guy's
2011 c5 1.6 e-hdi egs6 gearbox,how would i check the actuator fluid level on the egs6 gearbox. Any body out there have the egs6 c5 ??????

[renagade]

Good morning peoples
I take it then that there are no C5 owners on here that have the egs6 gearbox fitted to their cars.????????

[Hell Razor5543]

Give it a bit of time. Those who know could still be on holiday, or recovering from them!

[GiveMeABreak]

Good morning peoples
I take it then that there are no C5 owners on here that have the egs6 gearbox fitted to their cars.????????

For the gearbox, it is quite a complicated procedure and would take several pages here on describing what to do - so suffice to say I won't! Regarding the Piloting actuators this has to be done with the diagnostic and the actuator removed to replace the hydraulic reservoir oil, again using the diagnostic, then depressurising and bleeding the system:

1. Drain and refill
Connect the diagnostic equipment to the vehicle’s diagnostic socket.
Switch on the ignition.
Select from the diagnostic tool menus :
The vehicle
The RPO no.
Perform the global test.
Select and validate the menus :
Gearbox ECU
Specific operations
Draining of the gearbox piloting actuator oil
Follow the instructions given in the diagnostic tool (The operation is automatic).
All the oil contained in the electrohydraulic actuator unit and in the pressure accumulator returns to the piloting actuator hydraulic reservoir.
Remove the piloting actuator to replace the piloting actuator hydraulic reservoir oil.
2. Oil filler cap



CAUTION : In the case of a new hydraulic reservoir, remove the tab (1) to release the breather.
Fill via the cap (2).
Oil quality :
SELENIA oil
TUTELA CAR CS SPEED
SAE 75W (Part number 9979.A4)
Fill to the maximum mark ( as "a").

3. Fluid level
N.B. : The oil level is checked after depressurising the piloting actuator.
Connect the diagnostic equipment to the vehicle’s diagnostic socket.
Switch on the ignition.
Select from the diagnostic tool menus :
The vehicle
The RPO no.
Perform the global test.
Select and validate the menus :
Gearbox ECU
Specific operations
Check of the gearbox piloting actuator oil level
The diagnostic tool displays a new menu.
Select : Depressurisation of the hydraulic circuit.
Check the level of oil contained in the piloting actuator hydraulic reservoir.
The oil level must be at maximum ( as "a").
Carry out :
Top up with oil if necessary
Pressurise and bleed the hydraulic circuit

[renagade]

My word you are not joking. You are my star once again my friend. While all is well I think I will leave it that way as my Lexia for some reason does not pick up on the egs6 gearbox. I have done dozen's of global test's and in all the documentation it does not see the egs6. I think I will leave till the warmer weather.

[GiveMeABreak]

My word you are not joking. You are my star once again my friend. While all is well I think I will leave it that way as my Lexia for some reason does not pick up on the egs6 gearbox. I have done dozen's of global test's and in all the documentation it does not see the egs6. I think I will leave till the warmer weather.

What version of Diagbox are you using as a matter of interest?

[renagade]

Hi, it was the update you gave me a couple of weeks back I think it was 7.57.

[impaelas]

Digging this out of the cupboard. Have a Peugeot 508 RXH Hybrid4 with a piloted gearbox that is acting up (jammed clucth). Before going for the outrageously expensive actuator replacement I thought I'd try replacing the fluid. I have access to Ravenol GHA-F that I've seen recommended in several places but don't know the capacity of the system? If anyone has this info please share.

Thank you

[GiveMeABreak]

The actuator oil is specialised. Don’t use anything other than the official fluid type. Secondly, you will need to depressurise the entire system before checking the level and topping up where necessary, so will need an appropriate diagnostic tool.

But to be honest, you really need to have it diagnosed properly to see what the issue is. It may need a grid reset or clutch calibration procedure.

[impaelas]

Thank you,
Unfortunately the diagnostics is up to me. No one wants to touch this with a 3m stick.
I've had clutch slip a few days ago. No error message. Then few days ago a got a popup with P1755 and P0925. First one is actuator related, 2nd gearbox. Actuator says clutch jammed.

I am due a clutch replacement (with the flywheel) with 190k km+ on the clock. But the dealership simply wants to replace the actuator which costs on the upper side of 2000eur. It might be that it is only the clutch that needs replacement but deteriorsted fluid in the actuator seems to have been a problem for some people. Changing it did the trick. I'm not saying this will be the case for me but I am willing to try before setting out on a quest for a spare one before I need to. Thoughts? Thanks!

[GiveMeABreak]

Sitting comfortably?

As you can see from fault P1755, it could be any of these:

Fault Code:	P1755
Description of Fault:	Clutch jammed: Coherence. Clutch actuator fault: incorrect position in relation to the reference value. Context of appearance of the fault code: Absence of error on the clutch electrovalve and on the engine speed signal At least one of the following conditions must be fulfilled: - Ignition on - No driving of the starter - Supply voltage correct : Voltage at pin 3 of the 28-way connector between 8 and 16 V - Absence of fault codes P0807 - P0808 - P1711 - P1712 - P1713 - No emergency request for gear N - No depollution strategy from the clutch electrovalve in progress
Conditions for Fault to clear:	After switching the ignition off and then back on
Downgrade Modes whilst Fault is active:	No opening of the clutch. Possibility 1: Neutral - Gear changing impossible - Drive with the rear machine Possibility 2: Gear engaged - Loss of AUTO, SPORT, 4WD modes (Restarting of the internal combustion engine if stopped ; Deactivation of the "Stop and Start" function) - Gear changing impossible - If engine speed close to stalling : Engagement of Neutral (Neutral achieved : Drive with the rear machine) If there is random closing of the clutch Possibility 1: Fault during restarting of the engine - Stopping of restarting of the engine - Emergency neutralising of the gearbox Possibility 2: The gearbox remains in the gear engaged - Deactivation of the vehicle cruise control and speed limiter - Stopping the vehicle - No activation of the power train Possibility 3: Neutral achieved - Gear changing impossible - Drive with the rear machine No closing of the clutch - Change to Neutral - Drive with the rear machine Switching on of the warning lamp and/or warning message: (*)"SERVICE" warning lamp Sport warning lamp Snow warning lamp Automatic or 6-speed piloted manual gearbox warning lamps (Orange PRND triangle) Display of a "-" on the fascia panel
Symptoms:	Difficult/impossible to change a gear Lack of power Absence of the electric mode Malfunction of the cruise control Malfunction of the speed limiter Problem activating the power unit Leaks
Suspect Areas:	Clutch kit Clutch sensor Pressure sensor Clutch electrovalve Selection solenoid valve Pipes Hydraulic reservoir for piloted manual gearbox Gearbox oil Piloted manual gearbox accumulator Piloted manual gearbox electrovalve block Breather valve Valve Piloted manual gearbox electropump Pump seal Piloted manual gearbox electric motor Fuses Electrical harnesses Controlled manual gearbox ECU

Fault Code:	P0925
Description of Fault:	Gearbox fault - The gear does not engage: Not characterised. Non-engagement of the gear requested at the end of 2 s (Not N). Context of appearance of the fault code The following conditions have to be met: - Gear change in progress (Engagement only) - Absence of fault codes P1586 - P1587 - P1724 - P1726 - P1731
Conditions for Fault to clear:	After switching the ignition off and then back on
Downgrade Modes whilst Fault is active:	Inhibiting of the gear causing the problem. Possibility 1 Driving in another less appropriate gear Possibility 2 - The gearbox remains in neutral - Drive with the rear machine Switching on of the warning lamp and/or warning message (*): - Warning lamp MIL
Symptoms:	Difficult/impossible to change a gear Lack of power Leaks
Suspect Areas:	Gear engagement electrovalves Gear change sensor Gearbox actuator Pipes Hydraulic reservoir for piloted manual gearbox Gearbox oil Piloted manual gearbox accumulator Piloted manual gearbox electrovalve block Breather valve Valve Piloted manual gearbox electropump Pump seal Piloted manual gearbox electric motor Fuses Controlled manual gearbox ECU Gear selection sensor Electrical harnesses

[impaelas]

Bloody hell. Under Suspect areas it should just say: Peugeot.

Gearbox oil had been changed last summer and no leaks were noticed. It will be changed again during when the flywheel is replaced along with all semmerings.

I still think it should be tested before splashing out for the whole actuator. They didn't even lift the car but said I should look for a replacement. I thought only us noobs are allowed to shoot the parts cannon.

I am encouraging (fooling) myself that the fact that I had, what felt as a clutch slip on a steep uphil garage exit, might just be a worn clutch that had never been replaced.

Do you maybe have the specs for the actuator fluid somewhere? Just in case.

Thank you so much for all the help!

[GiveMeABreak]

I can't advise on this as you have a Hybrid and all the shenanigans that involves, so I'd check with your dealer to see what they advise and to ensure it is the correct stuff for your specific vehicle.