Tired of being cold - solved

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Re: Tired of being cold - solved

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xsaras4ever wrote:Hi Jim, why don't you build one - against an outside wall ?
I had thought the same. All you need for one of these fires is a stainless flexi-flue, 5" minimum. If you've got an outside wall, you should be in business.

First 1m of flue above the fire should be vitreous or rigid stainless, and can then become flexible, using a diameter reducer as appropriate. Any angles/turns should be not sharper than 45deg.
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Re: Tired of being cold - solved

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Hi Chris,

yes , while a stainless flue would work most of the time, in cold weather the steel would get too cold and when attempting to light the stove you would get negative pressure and it would smoke like a pig indoors.

Its not that we are expert on this - more that we have made all the mistakes along the way !!! :(

After we chucked our outdoor steel pipe we installed these - they are not expensive here and the chimney goes up very quickly. They must surely be available in the UK ??

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Interesting.
We have about 6m of 5" stainless flue, which I ran up our brick chimney, after the first 1m, which is rigid vitreous enamelled steel. To avoid condensation issues (especially when lighting) and deposits of resins (wood burning) I wrapped the stainless flexi flue in glassfibre insulation. Your terracotta blocks look designed to tackle the same issue. A really smart way to build a chimney!
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Thanks :) It shall look into the flue... I do have an outside wall that would be perfect for the job and a wall in the lounge just crying out for a proper stove...
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Its possible to buy twin wall flue for outside applications so protecting the inside lining from the worst of the cold.

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CitroJim wrote:Thanks :) It shall look into the flue... I do have an outside wall that would be perfect for the job and a wall in the lounge just crying out for a proper stove...
Your house would be amazing with a stove Jim. I hope building regs etc allow you to do this.
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My mother had a coal fired stove fitted to her narrow boat as it was being built. While it did keep the boat nice and warm during the winter, you had to keep the chimney clear of clinker, there was always ash to empty, and (even though the stove was a good one) she was forever cleaning the boat (as every time you opened the firebox to add fuel smoke and soot would escape and then settle out). Now she has a diesel fired stove and a lot less hassle.
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Hell Razor5543 wrote:as every time you opened the firebox to add fuel smoke and soot would escape and then settle out
Open flue damper, open door vent and allow to draw for a few secs, then open the door = smoke/dust up the pipe.

or chimney pipe to short/narrow
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One way to run a solid fuel burning stove was to get one of these, and then use it to put the junk mail to a better use;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fuel-Free-Blo ... SwVFlT0hst
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I have one in the shed.

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I just go over the road and get a tree....
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Stickyfinger wrote:I just go over the road and get a tree....
You've been busy recently by the looks of it... I noticed a lot had been chopped down the other day when I went past your place...
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There is no free lunch mind. Burners are work and time. You spend most of your days looking for wood and the nights dreaming about it. Price of an install in Jim's modern house, would buy a nice old car. A guy I know built his dream house in Argyll. Right on Loch Awe. Surrounded by forestry.
I dropped in to his house by boat for a coffee and a look over this fab house. No log burners. Didn't want them. "They are all work" he said "and that's what I don't want." I have 2 coal fires in this house and they are only used for novelty.
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Can't agree with that lexi, any work involved in having a real fire is worth it... I'd find it a positive pleasure...
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CitroJim wrote:
Stickyfinger wrote:I just go over the road and get a tree....
You've been busy recently by the looks of it... I noticed a lot had been chopped down the other day when I went past your place...
Loads of wood down by the road :)
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