1997 1.9TD Estate - A Tyre-ing question about handling

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Re: 1997 1.9TD Estate - A Tyre-ing question about handling

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I've done that, it seized up fully last year and screwed me over. It moves now, but I disturbed the lever rods position so it holds it lower. I want to have it off and stripped though, so will look at it then. I have a supposedly decent flare nut spanner now, although if its crap its outside of its return period though!

I think it's why I get flashed alot too, the front points up slightly
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2 Avon ZT5's are bought and being fitted by the mobile service at no extra charge on Tuesday!

I'll get them fitted to the back initially, as I want to eye up the droplink job anyway, so may as well swap them back to front and do that at the same time.

I took advantage of us paying 10 months council tax, so this month is free (you know what I mean) so at £98.78 the pair I'm still £52 up on the month.

Can't wait! This also marks possibly the first money spent on the car since I bought it that I want to spend, not that 'needs' to be spent, so that's a nice feeling, the improvements are starting. I'll get 2 more next month, and I've got some goodies to pick up from someone scrapping a 1.8 pez xantia, so will have a spare wheel that I will get shod in finest* part worn rubber as he said it's proper old and perished. Yet to go collect it all though, have some other bits as well
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What's this nonsense about hydraulic clutches always being lighter? My Lada begs to differ! You're more than welcome to test that for yourself if in the area. Skoda by contrast (also hydraulic - and at the very far end of the car at that) you can easily press the pedal by hand.

In all seriousness though, the Citroen and Pug clutches seem to vary a lot, the one on my 306 in particular was very much like standing on a block of concrete rather than a clutch pedal.

Cleaning, lubrication and exercise of the height correctors is a good idea - the rear one on Gabriel was very notchy when I first got the car, but liberal soaking with plusgas, exercise and later greasing soon sorted that out. Always made a point of exercising things at least every month - though when washing the car usually as fully up helps cleaning the sills, and fully down for the roof.
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My xantia is not getting much use just now, but getting a good run once a week and a spot of citrobotics to save it seizing up. It's living at my daughter's house, outside, about 100 meters from the north sea. It comes up here, gets a hose down, not usually a wash then a 20 or so mile run once a week.

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As far as droplinks go, I had some cheap £15/pair ones go in about 3k.

Thought it was my zealous speedbumping until I splurged on some TRW ones from GSF. Used the 50% off code they usually flit about and they cost £30ish for the pair, but they've been on the longest out of any set.

I've got a set of ISHF spheres here for the front of a TD. They're a few years old now but probably perfectly regassable (I replaced them for higher pressure ones designed for a 1.6!)
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The tyre fairy came to visit today

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and in under 15 minutes I had 2 new front tyres. Instant difference over the old tyres is the sidewall is so much firmer, even inflated to a few psi over standard the old tyres looked a bit flat.

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He swore at the perished Mohawk, and when it was off he showed me how bad it was by pushing the perished bit out from inside and it opened up to the canvas. Meh, it didn't explode whilst driving...

He was, however, utterly thrilled to see a 'hydraulic' citroen! He said 99.9% of his work is on company cars, so he never sees anything interesting. I let him drop it down to normal and it made his day I think. Hopefully they send him out to do the rears next month, he was an ace chap. Seemed genuinely shocked when I explained the issues I've had and the work done, in my eyes it's part and parcel of owning an old, cheap car, he seemed very impressed that I did a cambelt change and engine re-time, fitted my own exhaust and other such bits. Different world!

Hopefully tonight I'll not have wheel shake or dodgy handling. I eyed up the ARB links with the wheels off too and their not broken, but properly crusty and perished, the rubber on the drivers side close to full collapse so I'll lob a pair on at some point just to say their changed.
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Make sure when you change the drop links you use a decent make (such as Lemforder), as cheap links don't seem to last much past a few thousand miles.
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I will, ECP don't sell Llemforder, I'll try GSF when I get to that stage.

Hit post a bit soon on the previous one, the bloke we sold Amys old car to gave me some goodies from his scrap Xantia

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I can't get the image to link, it worked fine in the post above... http://www.ultraimg.com/image/pivy if anyone wants a gander at some second hand spares lying on some grass...

4 nice wheel trims (he did say what they were called but I've forgotten)
1 decent spare wheel with an OK tyre on it (may change it, will see how flush I feel when I order up the rear tyres next month)
Jack and jack holder
Wheel brace/wheel holder un-doing thingy

The car can have a spare wheel again! (well, when I get round to fitting it, it's all sat in the garden at the moment...)

Ironically the bloke we sold the Meriva to only bought it as a cheap stop gap. He has a white 1.8 that has engine issues, it's running too rich and killed a new cat in 6 months. It also needs drop links. I said I would help him fix it, as he's an older chap, with muscle issues. He only bought the Meriva as the MOT was up on the 20th, and he knew he wouldn't be able to fix it but needed to get to work. I'll post up when I get over there to properly give him a hand, but what could make a petrol run so bad it kills a cat? Spark plugs or something less simple? He drove all the way over to my mums to hand me tools and give moral support when I did the clutch cable clip so I feel I owe him the favour back. He's offered me his front seats too to replace my pug seats, but tbh they are more ruined than the seats I have, although more comfy for the brief time I sat in it, maybe seat covers would help me there...
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What injection system has the 1.8 got Sam and what year is it? I ask as early 1.8s with the Magnetti Marelli could be prone to this sort of issue..
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No idea and can't remember the year (1998 on an S maybe but tbh I didn't look much.) I'll point him this way so he can read and maybe even register
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beko1987 wrote:I'll point him this way so he can read and maybe even register
Excellent, that would be a very good thought ;)
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Coolant temperature sensor, MAP/MAF or Lambda sensor would probably be my prime suspects, in that order.

Check it's not something daft like a vacuum leak somewhere, a clogged (or waterlogged!) air filter or collapsed air intake hose before throwing any parts at it though.
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All the wheel shake is sorted up to 80,and the front end feels more planted! I didn't push it as its been raining and their not worn in, plus the backs are probably in worse condition than the old fronts were.

The jittery suspension is now more apparent. I must sort the rear height corrector out now so the back end sits right, and remove and strip it, then book a day with Jim to cast his magic eyes and ears over it so I can have a to do list to get on with.
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beko1987 wrote: then book a day with Jim to cast his magic eyes and ears over it so I can have a to do list to get on with.
Better get a date in my diary quick Sam; it’s getting very crowded now with runs and cycle sportives amongst other things ;)

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CitroJim wrote:
beko1987 wrote: then book a day with Jim to cast his magic eyes and ears over it so I can have a to do list to get on with.
Better get a date in my diary quick Sam; it’s getting very crowded now with runs and cycle sportives amongst other things ;)

Not forgetting Citroen rallies of course :D
Give me dates and I'll book one off work!
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