C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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A good time of day, and who can tell whether it is possible to replace the MAF sensor from 1.4 hdi 16v 8hy to maf from 1.6 hdi 16v since we can not find the original?
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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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Why don’t you just order the correct one from your dealer? They can give you the correct part number. Different sensors are made to perform to different tolerances for different engines.

Example: MAF Sensor Part numbers:
1920 GV - C3 1.6 HDi 92(DV6ATED4)
1920 GG - C3 1.4 HDi 70 (DV4TD)
1920 EK - for another engine

So these are the three main HDi parts - if you want to know what part number you need, post up your VIN number.
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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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thanks for the reply,our dealer is advised,I doubt that my wines VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]
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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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Your one is actually a different shape and a different part to those that I mentioned earlier.

Here is a picture of one from Eurocarparts for reference purposes (although not in stock):
https://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Citr ... +Targeting

The part is 1920 LC, but is no longer available from Citroen. Some people that have tried alternative MAF sensors, but find fault codes being returned shortly afterwards.

So the only option I can think of is to try a breaker yard....
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So the only option I can think of is to try a breaker yard....???If you can write your proposal for another, the translator can not translate, thanks
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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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Ok.
The car part (1920 LC) is no longer supplied by Citroen.
An alternative is to try and locate the MAF sensor that you need from a used car that is no longer being driven on the road. For example, a scrap dealer or car junk yard.
I hope Google can translate that a little better for you :-D
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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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OK ,thanks,I will try to seek ,although it is a big problem as it turned out,still can not find,but from 1.6 MAF will not work in any way???sorry for the annoying
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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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No problem, that's why we are here to help if we can.
What about this one?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Debimetre-da ... 2687604354
It shows 1920 LC in the reference section at the bottom of the listing. They are located in France.
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The problem you are facing is that a Mass Air Flow sensor is just one part in a group of components designed to work together in harmony. If the MAF is the wrong configuration for a given setup it will throw that setup out of balance. As a poor analogy imagine, if you will, a quartet of violin players who play classical music together beautifully. One of them takes sick, and the only stringed instrument player they can get at short notice is a heavy metal thrash bass guitarist who loathes classical music. It will not sound anything like music!
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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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yamaha 1300 wrote: 14 Feb 2018, 15:05 So the only option I can think of is to try a breaker yard....???If you can write your proposal for another, the translator can not translate, thanks

I think Google Translate might have trouble with that analogy James :-D The OP is in Belarus and I kept it plain second time round as he is having difficulty understanding the translation. :wink:
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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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The same sensor (same engine?) was apparently used in the Suzuki Liana.
This German company claimed to have new production stock: https://www.ms-motorservice.com/en/news ... ble-again/
If you do a google search for: "PIERBURG 728342070" you get quite a few hits for what may be the correct part (but check carefully).
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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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Many thanks to all for the help,I'm starting to understand what the MAF from the 1.4 and 1.6 are different,today I tried 4 MAF from the engine 1.6 ,though they were all already in use,but can't all 4 pieces to be faulty and show the same error,from 1.4 we have in Belarus is not ,while staying with her,car rides as if in emergency mode,but all is OK,starts fine and rides really little more eats diesel,I rang all the wiring,from the MAF to Control block all call,however some of the wires go through the pressure sensor of the turbine,but it should work until,like, if I get the right MAF then otpishu you how and what happened,and while there is a need in Poland,but he seems to be very expensive with shipping about $ 200 for us in Byelorussia it is expensive to say it was a salary,thank you and good luck,if you even so learn Kakko still the MAF can be installed in my engine is the 1.4 HDI 16 v 8hy inform here
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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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Hello everyone,
i have a Citroen C3 1.4 HDI 2004 that is reading 0,0g of air intake. Air temperature readings are normal. I have changed the maf sensor with a brand new one, but still having the same issue.

Scanning for errors, im getting the P0102 - Powertrain - Mass or volume air flow circuit low input.

I want to track the wires with a multimeter starting from the maf connector but i dont know in which connector they end after passing through the back of the engine.

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Do the maf wires end in any of the connectors at the left of the battery (marked as 1, 2 or 3 in the picture) or do they end inside any connector at the fuse box? (marked as 4)

Thank you all for your time

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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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What is your RP number shown on the tyre pressure label?
Is it Manual, Auto or sensodrive gearbox?
With this info I can get a detailed wiring diagram.
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Re: C3 1.4HDI 16v Pin assignment in MAF sensor plug

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Hello wheeler, thanks for your answer.
My RP number is 10158CA and its manual gearbox
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