One of my pins on C5 suspension ram is lovely and free. The other?
I have heated red hot, driven it through one side, broken cobalt dills, you name it
I will try and die grind pin flush and then pull the rod out, then I can see the pin to heat it and drive or drill out.
It is so solid, it must be welded in there.
Anyone got a pic of the rod end? I take it the pin only works to locate the rod on assembly? Is there a dead end in the swinging arm bush that the rod end pushes against? Ie to push against the weight of the car?
Rear ram pins
Moderator: RichardW
Rear ram pins
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Re: Rear ram pins
Read this from page 2...
http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... 4&start=15
And then page 7 and 8
It can be a real struggle and take many days (look at the dates on the posts) and you will want to give up many times but it will come free eventually but it wil be in many small pieces.
Persevere and you will succeed Lexi and remember to use plenty of copaslip grease when you put the new one back in.. You'll probably never have to remove them again, but you never know...
Oh and keep trying to twist the end of the ram pin (shaped like a hat) Chris's pic on page 3 Even when I'd got the pin out that was almost welded to its locator slot.
Good luck
http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... 4&start=15
And then page 7 and 8
It can be a real struggle and take many days (look at the dates on the posts) and you will want to give up many times but it will come free eventually but it wil be in many small pieces.
Persevere and you will succeed Lexi and remember to use plenty of copaslip grease when you put the new one back in.. You'll probably never have to remove them again, but you never know...
Oh and keep trying to twist the end of the ram pin (shaped like a hat) Chris's pic on page 3 Even when I'd got the pin out that was almost welded to its locator slot.
Good luck
Chris
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Re: Rear ram pins
Thanks guys. The upshot is that I didn't actually need it out. I was future proofing in case I had to do a gaitor or seals at some time later
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Vel Satis 3.5 v6
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Re: Rear ram pins
Phew!!!
Chris
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Re: Rear ram pins
The bush on the rod shaft is free to turn on the C5. Bush, being the bit that rubber gaitor goes over.
I have peeled all that back, covered vulnerable areas with heat resistant putty and had it all glowing red hot. I have used all the punches in all of those thread pics as well Like you Chris, I cannot centre or see the definition of the pin no more. I will continue to grind it with a stone and lapping paste, through the outside hole in cast iron swinging arm. I have enlarged that hole slightly to try and see the definition of pin. If I can find that, then more heat. When I am sure that my punch can get centre on it, then I can knock on it heavily. A little oil, then chalk might define the outline of the 3mm pin.
I am sure it is flush with rod on the other side, as I drove it through quite a bit from there and got it moving.
I will try all that and see if I can get a nice new pin in there. If it fails then I will leave. If I ever need to renew the unit or gaitor,then I will try the Plasma Cutter in that bigger hole Any damage then, and I will have a new unit on standby. Any enlarging of the split pin hole on cast metal swinging arm, I can plug weld and drill neat.
I have peeled all that back, covered vulnerable areas with heat resistant putty and had it all glowing red hot. I have used all the punches in all of those thread pics as well Like you Chris, I cannot centre or see the definition of the pin no more. I will continue to grind it with a stone and lapping paste, through the outside hole in cast iron swinging arm. I have enlarged that hole slightly to try and see the definition of pin. If I can find that, then more heat. When I am sure that my punch can get centre on it, then I can knock on it heavily. A little oil, then chalk might define the outline of the 3mm pin.
I am sure it is flush with rod on the other side, as I drove it through quite a bit from there and got it moving.
I will try all that and see if I can get a nice new pin in there. If it fails then I will leave. If I ever need to renew the unit or gaitor,then I will try the Plasma Cutter in that bigger hole Any damage then, and I will have a new unit on standby. Any enlarging of the split pin hole on cast metal swinging arm, I can plug weld and drill neat.
Citroen C5 1.6 HDI 110bhp Estate 06 plate
French Mistresses gone.
Citroen C5 HDI Mk 1 hatchback
Vel Satis 3.5 v6
ZX 1.9D Est.
ZX 1.9DHatch
Xantia 1.9td est.
Xantia 2.0 hdi Est.
Xantia V6 MK1
Xantia V6 MK 2
French Mistresses gone.
Citroen C5 HDI Mk 1 hatchback
Vel Satis 3.5 v6
ZX 1.9D Est.
ZX 1.9DHatch
Xantia 1.9td est.
Xantia 2.0 hdi Est.
Xantia V6 MK1
Xantia V6 MK 2