Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
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Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
Bought a pair of Sachs shocks off Eurocarparts for my 2CV. They look fine except for a plastic tag with KYB in the corner! Searched online and couldn't find a clue how Sachs is linked to KYB...I'm worried if these are fake parts...Does anyone have an idea?
2000 ZX 1.4i
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
Where are they made? Last KYB I bought came from their factory in France.
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Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
They are supposed to be Sachs.lexi wrote:Where are they made? Last KYB I bought came from their factory in France.
ECP link: http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Citro ... 424&000925
According to he label they are made in Japan:
2000 ZX 1.4i
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
Methinks it is to expensive to make Sachs in Japan. I may be wrong. Where would you go to set a factory up in another country?
Are Sachs not part of Arvin Meritor? Can't remember. See it on box now...........ZF group. Parts are a minefield With players changing hands constantly.
Are Sachs not part of Arvin Meritor? Can't remember. See it on box now...........ZF group. Parts are a minefield With players changing hands constantly.
Citroen C5 1.6 HDI 110bhp Estate 06 plate
French Mistresses gone.
Citroen C5 HDI Mk 1 hatchback
Vel Satis 3.5 v6
ZX 1.9D Est.
ZX 1.9DHatch
Xantia 1.9td est.
Xantia 2.0 hdi Est.
Xantia V6 MK1
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French Mistresses gone.
Citroen C5 HDI Mk 1 hatchback
Vel Satis 3.5 v6
ZX 1.9D Est.
ZX 1.9DHatch
Xantia 1.9td est.
Xantia 2.0 hdi Est.
Xantia V6 MK1
Xantia V6 MK 2
Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
Google says Sachs is owned by ZF which has facilities in Japan. So it is possible they make that strange shock there. But it is VERY weird to have a KYB tag.lexi wrote:Methinks it is to expensive to make Sachs in Japan. I may be wrong. Where would you go to set a factory up in another country?
Are Sachs not part of Arvin Meritor? Can't remember. See it on box now...........ZF group. Parts are a minefield With players changing hands constantly.
2000 ZX 1.4i
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
Probably contracted to KYB to make for Sachs/ZF. I bought a Febi tensioner a few weeks ago and it was a Dayco item.
Citroen C5 1.6 HDI 110bhp Estate 06 plate
French Mistresses gone.
Citroen C5 HDI Mk 1 hatchback
Vel Satis 3.5 v6
ZX 1.9D Est.
ZX 1.9DHatch
Xantia 1.9td est.
Xantia 2.0 hdi Est.
Xantia V6 MK1
Xantia V6 MK 2
French Mistresses gone.
Citroen C5 HDI Mk 1 hatchback
Vel Satis 3.5 v6
ZX 1.9D Est.
ZX 1.9DHatch
Xantia 1.9td est.
Xantia 2.0 hdi Est.
Xantia V6 MK1
Xantia V6 MK 2
Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
Yeah that probably explains. I've sent an inquiry to Sachs with the pictures. Hope they'll reply me...lexi wrote:Probably contracted to KYB to make for Sachs/ZF. I bought a Febi tensioner a few weeks ago and it was a Dayco item.
2000 ZX 1.4i
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
I received the feedback from Sachs customer service today. The answer was "please can you go back to where you purchased them from, as if they are Sachs they should not have a KYB stamp or sticker on them". My understanding is that these are FAKE parts as per their comments, so I am requesting Eurocarparts for a full refund including shipping fees.lexi wrote:Probably contracted to KYB to make for Sachs/ZF. I bought a Febi tensioner a few weeks ago and it was a Dayco item.
2000 ZX 1.4i
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
Interesting.
To add to this, I bought a Lemforder part for C5 control arm last week. It is the bush with a big ally section on it.
Lemforder box with made in China on it. Funnily enough, this has ZF components, marked on a label on box. Do ZF own them too?
To add to this, I bought a Lemforder part for C5 control arm last week. It is the bush with a big ally section on it.
Lemforder box with made in China on it. Funnily enough, this has ZF components, marked on a label on box. Do ZF own them too?
Citroen C5 1.6 HDI 110bhp Estate 06 plate
French Mistresses gone.
Citroen C5 HDI Mk 1 hatchback
Vel Satis 3.5 v6
ZX 1.9D Est.
ZX 1.9DHatch
Xantia 1.9td est.
Xantia 2.0 hdi Est.
Xantia V6 MK1
Xantia V6 MK 2
French Mistresses gone.
Citroen C5 HDI Mk 1 hatchback
Vel Satis 3.5 v6
ZX 1.9D Est.
ZX 1.9DHatch
Xantia 1.9td est.
Xantia 2.0 hdi Est.
Xantia V6 MK1
Xantia V6 MK 2
Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
Yeah seems ZF owns Lemforder brand.lexi wrote:Interesting.
To add to this, I bought a Lemforder part for C5 control arm last week. It is the bush with a big ally section on it.
Lemforder box with made in China on it. Funnily enough, this has ZF components, marked on a label on box. Do ZF own them too?
2000 ZX 1.4i
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
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Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
There's a huge problem with counterfeit parts from China, even bearings and gears for Passenger aircraft have found their way into the system and drugs into the NHS.
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Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
You are probably right. But there is no single clue that this particular case is linked to any Chinese product.Gibbo2286 wrote:There's a huge problem with counterfeit parts from China, even bearings and gears for Passenger aircraft have found their way into the system and drugs into the NHS.
2000 ZX 1.4i
2006 Xsara Picasso 2.0i
2011 C5 2.3i (EW12A)
2003 Xsara Picasso 2.0HDi
1985 2CV6 Special
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Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
Wasn't Citronut always questioning Eurocarparts parts ? ...I think saying "always questioning" is putting it mildly thoughOliver53 wrote: I received the feedback from Sachs customer service today. The answer was "please can you go back to where you purchased them from, as if they are Sachs they should not have a KYB stamp or sticker on them". My understanding is that these are FAKE parts as per their comments, so I am requesting Eurocarparts for a full refund including shipping fees.
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Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
aye - last time I saw Malcom (may he rest in peace) , he told me how his local ECP branch had been taken to court by trading standards for selling fake parts
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Re: Shocks bought from ECP with both Sachs and KYB tags
Interesting that you got such clear and prompt feedback from Sachs.
Let us know how you get on with the return attempts.
Let us know how you get on with the return attempts.
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