Subframe removal
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Re: Subframe removal
Sorry Kenny, no the HDi does not.. I was thinking you had a 1.9TD...
My bad... But yes, if the fans are on all the time that's the basic problem...
Great that you've sorted the height problem and all else looks good.
My bad... But yes, if the fans are on all the time that's the basic problem...
Great that you've sorted the height problem and all else looks good.
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Re: Subframe removal
IIRC the Stop and Temp lights also come on (HDI) if there is a fault on/with the relays in the triangular box in front of the fans if the air con is called, either on switch or on de-mist. HTH
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Re: Subframe removal
Thanks for the reply Harry,
I had much fun a few years back tracing an electrical problem with my fans in the 1.9TD, so I will have to get the multi meter out and start testing and cleaning all connections.
It shall be fun in this weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kenny
I had much fun a few years back tracing an electrical problem with my fans in the 1.9TD, so I will have to get the multi meter out and start testing and cleaning all connections.
It shall be fun in this weather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kenny
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Re: Subframe removal
Kenny, I have the HDi-specific wiring diagrams if you need them...
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Re: Subframe removal
Jim,
Send me the diagrams.
Kenny
Send me the diagrams.
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Re: Subframe removal
A please would have been nice Kenny
I'll forgive you just this one time
Here they are:
Cooling Fans Circuit
Cooling Fans Harness
Engine ECU Circuit
Engine ECU harnesses
Sorry for the poor quality, the originals were printed on paper that makes recycled bog roll look high quality!!!
Hope they help...
I'll forgive you just this one time
Here they are:
Cooling Fans Circuit
Cooling Fans Harness
Engine ECU Circuit
Engine ECU harnesses
Sorry for the poor quality, the originals were printed on paper that makes recycled bog roll look high quality!!!
Hope they help...
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Re: Subframe removal
Sorry jim forgot to say please, I have access to sedre but couldn't find the wiring diagrams.
so your links are great.
Kenny
so your links are great.
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No worries at all Kenny
Good stuff Fingers crossed they'll help sort the problemKennyW wrote: your links are great.
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Re: Subframe removal
Jim,
Problem found burnt out right hand relay shorted between pins 4 and 5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kenny
Problem found burnt out right hand relay shorted between pins 4 and 5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Great stuffKennyW wrote:Jim,
Problem found burnt out right hand relay shorted between pins 4 and 5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kenny
Have you replaced it and is the relay base OK?
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Re: Subframe removal
Jim,
I've got replacements galore but I'm going to check the relay base.
Interestingly, the relay is a 5 pin but on wiring diagram it is 4 pin.I've 2 4pin relays spare which are new from TD. Also I see the secondary supply for hhigh speed mode is run throught the double injection relay.
Kenny
I've got replacements galore but I'm going to check the relay base.
Interestingly, the relay is a 5 pin but on wiring diagram it is 4 pin.I've 2 4pin relays spare which are new from TD. Also I see the secondary supply for hhigh speed mode is run throught the double injection relay.
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As long as the base is OK for it there is no problem in using a five pin relay as a four pin replacement Kenny... The five pin is a changeover relay with a normally open and a normally closed contact whereas a 4 pin only has a normally open contact...
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Re: Subframe removal
Jim,
I couldn't get the forum until now, no idea why. But moving on..........................
The 5 pin change over relay shorted across pins number 4 & 5 melted down!
The relay base is the only one not smothered in grease.
Kenny
I couldn't get the forum until now, no idea why. But moving on..........................
The 5 pin change over relay shorted across pins number 4 & 5 melted down!
The relay base is the only one not smothered in grease.
Kenny
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Xantia TD 1.9 Mk 2 Estate LX 1998 model over 210,000 miles now and still rising!!!!!!!!!!!!! now deceased 17/12/2010.
Xantia 2.0 Hdi 90hp 1999 only 189,000 and rising!!!!!!! Moved on to a new home
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We had an Internet bearer fail to the forum servers Kenny, all good again now...
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Re: Subframe removal
Time for an update.
All the little niggles fixed.
I have 1 rattle at start up and switching off which I believe is my return pipe from steering pinion as the pipe'.s loose but the pipe end feels secure. I think it needs a final tweek.
Otherwise its running fine.
The standard bubble flares for the front brakes are not leaking. So anybody needing to replace them can get them made up.
Kenny
All the little niggles fixed.
I have 1 rattle at start up and switching off which I believe is my return pipe from steering pinion as the pipe'.s loose but the pipe end feels secure. I think it needs a final tweek.
Otherwise its running fine.
The standard bubble flares for the front brakes are not leaking. So anybody needing to replace them can get them made up.
Kenny
C5 x7 2.0 HDi 160 hp Estate exclusive, the newbie
Xantia 2.0 Hdi 90hp 1999 only 189,000 and rising!!!!!!! Moved on to a new home
C3 1.4 petrol (SWMBO)
Xantia TD 1.9 Mk 2 Estate LX 1998 model over 210,000 miles now and still rising!!!!!!!!!!!!! now deceased 17/12/2010.
Xantia 2.0 Hdi 90hp 1999 only 189,000 and rising!!!!!!! Moved on to a new home
C3 1.4 petrol (SWMBO)
Xantia TD 1.9 Mk 2 Estate LX 1998 model over 210,000 miles now and still rising!!!!!!!!!!!!! now deceased 17/12/2010.