Xantia master cylinder leak
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Xantia master cylinder leak
Hi guys new on this forum so be gentle with me lol ok the problem I have is the I have a 1998 xantia turbo diesel which I love but the master cylinder Is leaking.i spoke to my local garage who said its a huge job and quoted a £1000.ive heard you can buy a repair kit but I'm unsure how to repair it. Any advice thanks in advance
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Re: Xantia master cylinder leak
Welcome to the forum
They're wrong... If the leak is into the inside of the car then the only problem is a split in the rubber cap over the end of the brake dosuer valve (the analogue of the master cylinder) where the brake pedal plunger acts against it..
The rubber cap is readily available and easy enough, if not a little fiddly, to replace...
Certainly a DIY job...
I'm sure one of our members will soon be along to explain exactly how and post up a few diagrams showing exactly what you need..
One thing, if the leak is inside then you'll find the LHM fluid will have run under the driver's footwell carpet and soaked into the underlay and the sound-deadening panels on the floor. You'll find it a right royal mess and the LHM melts the sound-deadening panels and they turn to goo..
Even if the leak is external it's still not a hard job to replace the valve...
One source of an external leak into the engine bay is a split in the leakage return pipe from the valve back to the LHM reservoir...
They're wrong... If the leak is into the inside of the car then the only problem is a split in the rubber cap over the end of the brake dosuer valve (the analogue of the master cylinder) where the brake pedal plunger acts against it..
The rubber cap is readily available and easy enough, if not a little fiddly, to replace...
Certainly a DIY job...
I'm sure one of our members will soon be along to explain exactly how and post up a few diagrams showing exactly what you need..
One thing, if the leak is inside then you'll find the LHM fluid will have run under the driver's footwell carpet and soaked into the underlay and the sound-deadening panels on the floor. You'll find it a right royal mess and the LHM melts the sound-deadening panels and they turn to goo..
Even if the leak is external it's still not a hard job to replace the valve...
One source of an external leak into the engine bay is a split in the leakage return pipe from the valve back to the LHM reservoir...
Jim
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Re: Xantia master cylinder leak
hi and welcome
were are you located
here is price and part No. of the protector rubber cap and the aluminum retaining ring from Citroen
Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
5424455 CNTRL-UNIT RING 3.61 GBP 4.33 GBP 4.33 GBP
95640067 BRAKE PROTECTOR 6.64 GBP 7.97 GBP 7.97 GBP
these are the two parts required to fix the in cab citro blood leak Sir Jim mentioned
if you look from inside to the bulkhead behind the brake pedal, you will see/find two 11mm nuts which you need to remove
( mind they dont drop behind the carpet under felt ),
now from under the bonnet you need to remove the turbo ducting that runs down behind the O/S = UK drivers side of the engine,
now gently ease the dosur valve away from the bulk head and into the engine bay, and very very gently rotate it around so the end that normally points into the car is facing at an angle to allow you to prize the retaining ring out, followed by the rubber protector cap,
you will find this has a rib on its outer circumference that sits in a groove in the opening of the valve body, so you need to pick this out with a small screw driver,
the other leak Sir Jim mentioned is a rubber hose that attaches to the underside of the valve body, so the above procedure is the same, so you can gain access to cut and join the rubber hose/pipe,
i usually cut off the split section and a good few inches then re/join the good section with a length of kunifer (copper nickle ) of the correct diameter,
the only reason to use kunifer is it bends to the required shape easier than steel pipe
were are you located
here is price and part No. of the protector rubber cap and the aluminum retaining ring from Citroen
Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
5424455 CNTRL-UNIT RING 3.61 GBP 4.33 GBP 4.33 GBP
95640067 BRAKE PROTECTOR 6.64 GBP 7.97 GBP 7.97 GBP
these are the two parts required to fix the in cab citro blood leak Sir Jim mentioned
if you look from inside to the bulkhead behind the brake pedal, you will see/find two 11mm nuts which you need to remove
( mind they dont drop behind the carpet under felt ),
now from under the bonnet you need to remove the turbo ducting that runs down behind the O/S = UK drivers side of the engine,
now gently ease the dosur valve away from the bulk head and into the engine bay, and very very gently rotate it around so the end that normally points into the car is facing at an angle to allow you to prize the retaining ring out, followed by the rubber protector cap,
you will find this has a rib on its outer circumference that sits in a groove in the opening of the valve body, so you need to pick this out with a small screw driver,
the other leak Sir Jim mentioned is a rubber hose that attaches to the underside of the valve body, so the above procedure is the same, so you can gain access to cut and join the rubber hose/pipe,
i usually cut off the split section and a good few inches then re/join the good section with a length of kunifer (copper nickle ) of the correct diameter,
the only reason to use kunifer is it bends to the required shape easier than steel pipe
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
Re: Xantia master cylinder leak
ps. not another Jim!!! we shall have to call Sir Jim ( citrojim ) Jim the obi wan ( oby 1 )
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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citronut wrote:ps. not another Jim!!! we shall have to call Sir Jim ( citrojim ) Jim the obi wan ( oby 1 )
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Re: Xantia master cylinder leak
I'm in dundee scotland guys thank you soooo much for the advice I really like the car but couldn't justify paying £1000 for a repair.its such a relief that it's a easy fix thanks again guys
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Re: Xantia master cylinder leak
Jim, that's excellent and this kind of thing is exactly what the forum is for
Jim
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Re: Xantia master cylinder leak
My local mobile car mechanic changed mine for £60 when I supplied the parts.
Re: Xantia master cylinder leak
so Aki the nooo see you Jimmy ( the new title is just to save confusion with all these Jim's
you dont say if the citro blood is filling the drivers foot well or leaking in the engine bay????
you dont say if the citro blood is filling the drivers foot well or leaking in the engine bay????
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Xantia master cylinder leak
Ha ha you may call Lord james of scotland
Re: Xantia master cylinder leak
Mr James your honor
you still did not say if the citro blood were/is leaking into the drivers foot well or in the engine bay ??????
you still did not say if the citro blood were/is leaking into the drivers foot well or in the engine bay ??????
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years