Synergie diesel throttle damper
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Synergie diesel throttle damper
heya - a question regarding:
the red bit
is it supposed to be able to move freely? mine seems to be very much `sticking`.
also what is its purpose?
the red bit
is it supposed to be able to move freely? mine seems to be very much `sticking`.
also what is its purpose?
Simon
Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
the red color does not move but the plunger when at the correct angle is there to slow the throttle down on coming off,
it looks like the one in your picy has had its bracket bent outwards to take it out of service
it looks like the one in your picy has had its bracket bent outwards to take it out of service
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
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1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
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1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
yet something else to fix , along with the poor starting (which im sure is between the relay and the glow plugs)
Simon
Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
Harlequin wrote:yet something else to fix , along with the poor starting (which im sure is between the relay and the glow plugs)
you dont need the damper in place as it does not affect the running, its just spozed to be a green ( looking after the O zone layer ) device
when the damper fails it holds thew throttle up tooo high/long
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
We got our Synergie new all those years ago (1998). Don't buy new cars these days but then the deal made it almost as cheap as a recent second hand one. At first service I said that the revs took aged to drop to idle, the very good and experienced mechanic said its the damper, we often take them off .... so he did. That was 15 1/2 years and 140k mile ago. Still got it in the garage, never wanted to re fit it. The only downside is if you are chugging around in first or second at low speed and take your foot off the throttle indelicately the 'van can lurch a bit, but really all the damper does is improve the low speed driveability for the moderately incompetent operator.
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Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
it was meant to be there to bring the revs back to idle gently, something to do with emissions controlRichard_C wrote: but really all the damper does is improve the low speed driveability for the moderately incompetent operator.
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
I always thought the mini shock-absorber (across the front of the pump) was the "damper". That part at the rear, that's been bent out of shape is the anti-stall device isn't it? Just sounds like it needs resetting as per the BOL.
Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
do they have both on any one pump them Mike, or was it one type or the other?????,
possibly yet another senior moment in the making
possibly yet another senior moment in the making
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
according to service citroen the part is
inject pump load leaver dash pot
part number 1563 F9
inject pump load leaver dash pot
part number 1563 F9
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Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
You may be correct - I'll have to check my car now as I thought mine originally had both.citronut wrote:do they have both on any one pump them Mike, or was it one type or the other?????,
possibly yet another senior moment in the making
As for correct names, I/we tend to call the throttle position sensor (if fitted) a "pot" so maybe y'all should best ignore me anyway
Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
MikeT wrote: You may be correct - I'll have to check my car now as I thought mine originally had both.
thats got you thinking now Mike aint it
thats because pot is ( not just what druggies use ) short for potentiometerMikeT wrote: As for correct names, I/we tend to call the throttle position sensor (if fitted) a "pot" so maybe y'all should best ignore me anyway
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
Similar to the 'strut' type they fitted on the front of some XUDT's, 406 and probably Xantia I guess. They were about 70 odd ( ! ) new, most people just binned them when they wore out and rattled. The back one (my 106D had one) as said is just a damper, I guess partly so you do not have to have the antistall set too high maybe.
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Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
Sorry for leaving it so long but I popped the bonnet today and yes, mine had both (the front shock-absorber lies in a box in a cupboard somewhere)citronut wrote:do they have both on any one pump them Mike, or was it one type or the other?????,
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Re: Synergie diesel throttle damper
seems mine is missing - the front strut mini shock absorber , the mounts are there for it , its just missing (and yes the one at the back was bent out of the way)
Simon