1.4 hdi engine cutting out

[daviemck2006]

I hope you accept me asking about a foreign van here, but it is a citroen at heart and it's the citroen bit that has broke. From the day after I got it when I went to meet Malcolm to do the deal on the c5 it has been idling a bit rough and sometimes stalling. It did this with Malcolm in the van, and he, and I thought the most likely cause and first thing to look at is the fuel filter. I have no idea when it was last serviced. I do have oil,air and fuel filters ordered. When the recovery man arrived after it stopped on a bad corner in the pissing rain in the countryside the thing started, moved about 1/4 mile and stopped again and refused to go after that. The recovery man, actually a proper mechanic from a garage that does contract for the AA, had a bit of a root around. There is a cable tie holding one of the pipes on to the fuel filter, and shining his light under the airbox along the top of the engine, it is wet with diesel in there. He suggests it is a leaky injector which is causing the fuel starvation. So I guess I need to remove the airbox to have a look and I am expecting to find at least one leaky injector. Would it be good practice to change all 4 injectors if one has gone then presumably all four are needing changed? Is this an easy enough job? Where is the best place to get injectors, dealer or motor factor?Is there any other things that could leak fuel in there? Is this liable to be an expensive repair? Would I be as well just get it running and whack it back to the auction as both the recovery man and I think that the cable tie suggests that someone has been in there before which could be the reason it was in an auction. I'm not happy just now, since I bumped the c5 last month it is one thing after another with cars. Shaun has ordered a new petrol tank for his old car and is running about in his 107 with the front bumper modified and loose and a wheel arch liner missing. Thats not the best idea and I said to him to get a wheel arch liner and fix the bumper back on to the wing, and we can paint the scratches on the lower bumper in the spring or summer.

[citroenxm]

I would be more inclined to think return leak off pipes then actual injector or a split high presure pipe from rail to injector.

untill you get the air box off and see what exactley is going on its not worth the guessing.

you do not want to know the price of the dv4 or dv6 fuel injectors. Not cheap.

but at the moment id hazard at return pipe.

[daviemck2006]

I might or might not need this then http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Ford- ... 4875d3f493" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I shall have to take off the airbox when I get a chance between the storms up here to investigate it. Note, genuine FORD bits the seller says

[RichardW]

Bad luck Davie - suspect you have found the reason it was in the auction....

You really need to get it on some diagnostics to see why it won't go - could be fuel pressure, or crank sensor, or wiring, or ECU, or...or...or.... Don't know what the Ford equivalent of Lexia is or whether lexia would talk to it if you told it it was a Nemo or something.

It would certainly be worth getting a new fuel filter on it - make sure you prime it well - and see if it will go.

[citroenxm]

Injector seals are easy to diagnose on the compression end... you simply get cylinder compression leak past. Wont stop an engine from running..

[Hell Razor5543]

Injector seals are easy to diagnose on the compression end... you simply get cylinder compression leak past. Wont stop an engine from running..

Might teach it to whistle though!

[daviemck2006]

The only whistling happening here today is the wind outside, that's if you can hear it for the rain. It won't be looked at outside today.

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[Hell Razor5543]

Rain? I heard that the seas were attempting to retake the land via air drop, and they had enlisted the help of the gales!

[bxzx16v]

I'd be tempted to get it running and get it back through the auction Davie. Good luck whichever option you decide.

Mark

[Northern_Mike]

I'd be tempted to get it running and get it back through the auction Davie.

Yes. That.

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[daviemck2006]

Yes I think that may well happen.

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[daviemck2006]

The sea coming sideways from the sky has stopped at last. Shaun was going out so I said go see if that pile of s**t starts, and if it does put it in the drive for me. It started first turn, idled perfectly went round the block perfectly a few times until warmed up and continued to idle perfectly. Haven't opened the bonnet for a look. It's now getting dark. First thing that will be looked at will be fuel filter.

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[c.morewood]

You'll have the horizontal snow now Davie!!
From my experience with the 1.4 the seals are a weak point and go every couple of years or so.. but they're quite easily diagnosed as you can quite clearly hear the chuff chuff when the bonnet is open and can smell the whiff of exhaust fumes through the air vents inside the car.
My C2 would cut out due to air in the fuel line almost always as you came off the roundabout ... but it never stopped the car running completely it would always pick up after a few (heart stopping, as the car behind would be accelerating into the back of you) moments.
That was just a small leak.. never outwards always sucking air in.. I had to replace the entire fuel line octopus. The only way you could tell really was when pumping the bulb you could see a small amount of air bubbles in the clear fuel line.

[daviemck2006]

I've been looking at the fiesta mk 6 oc forum and nearly every case of the 1.4 diesel poor running and cutting out is due to injector seals. I am not saying that is my problem, I will have to wait until I get the air box off to see if I can see where the fuel is leaking from. I hope it is a simple fix, if it's injector seals that won't be too bad. If it's anything much worse it will find itself back to thainstone car auction. There is snow here, but the wind is off the sea so it's not really lying here. Probably a mile or two inland and it will be a different story.

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[daviemck2006]

I posted on wrong thread lol. Here is the mess of gunk under the air box. What kind of stuff would shift this? Would it be okay to use the power hose in here? It's starting and idling ok today. Where my finger is in pic 2 is that just the fuel supply and return from the Injectors? It seems to be wet also!

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