Sensodrive fan club

[daviemck2006]

I'm saying no more on this thread. We all know my opinion now sensodrive is [emoji90] [emoji1] [emoji40]

[CitroJim]

The new version of the forum will come with vastly improved search functions that will allow useful information to be found in any thread, however far it might have wandered off topic...

There is some most valuable information in this thread which I'll look into distilling into a useful hints and tips sort of thread and spin off the F1 stuff into a new thread in the Chat area.

I have it tagged as a 'to do' in forum tasks...

Is that OK?

[addo]

It's reasonable to suggest that "fan club" typically implies a certain degree of informality and digression, isn't it?

I suggest people consider the artist/artisan mindset when posting on their favourite things. You're doing it because you want to; you are in charge of your "sharing" but not the reaction. Say you were a master tradesman who'd just repaired an eighteenth century wall, carefully patched damaged brick, new lime plaster over the top and finally a hand-blended lime paint to finish. And then someone like bloody Banksy comes along and stencils a hedgehog in suspenders, on your work. Sure, you can chuck a wobbly, but the reality is for the short term chatter will be all about "the Banksy" - not the heritage craftsman. Life goes on; your efforts remain for those who care.

[Jodyone]

Before buying my wife's sensodrive I read all the lurching, bounced off the windscreen warnings but this box is excellent. So seems we have the only one (there is another diesel I drove too), I would seriously invite anyone to visit and try it, not as described here at all.

As I wrote, I don't even know if the car I drove had a sensodrive gearbox or not (I suppose it is likely, if you've heard similar comments from others). I hadn't even heard of Sensodrive till yesterday, so I have no bias either way - but the car that the dealer gave me was dreadful, as I described. I've owned all kinds of rustheaps over the years that looked like they shouldn't be road legal (and possibly weren't), but I've never encountered an automatic gearbox as unpleasant as that one. Perhaps it was broken.

[charentejohn]

Seems I have upset a lot of people who have slightly misconstrued my words.
I am not the worlds greatest sensodrive fan, but I do like them so far and will I reckon, armed with good information, buy another. I believe any senso/paddle operated type box thread should have for and against in it or what's the point.
Having started the thread, seriouly not really in jest just my humour, I had hoped for experiences and solutions. These boxes have a bad press, as we can see here, so I just thought somebody might want to say that they found them ok and ask for people's experiences of living with them.
What I meant by french garages seeing a lot of them is just that, not repairing all the dead ones, just that they deal with the cars every day servicing and maintenence and see no problem doing that. That is like saying all cars quickfit chage clutches on are bad as they need work doing.
Good or bad is ok but either comments should have a why aspect. I think they are brilliant tells you nothing. I like them and can live with the need to select 1st manually now and again at roundabouts is useful info. Others can then realise that this is normal.
Ok to say they are jerky (a common complaint) and couldn't be repaired but details of what was tried and costs would help. For example if the repair did not include a new clutch and actuator some repair specialists would say that it was guaranteed not to work. http://www.eurocarcare.net/faults.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; If that was done and it still did not work that is worth knowing.
I know car manufacturers can be a bit blinkered but then to produce a gearbox over a 7 yr period ? 90% of which failed within a few years never to work correctly again sounds unlikely ? Let me tell you about the 2 cars I have had with an AL4 gearbox, loud thump, limp home mode, years of various fixes none of which worked, etc etc.

If there is a place where people can give the problem and what was tried that would help. Also posts of problems, jerky, not engaging gears under certain circumstances are useful. What I would want to know when looking at one, I can then check it is not like that. We are lucky to have a good one so now I know what they should be like so can test my next car by comparing it. That said any strange quirks would be good to know so I can test them too.

I don't take offence at the responses but will now shut up on this subject.

[addo]

I think it was also a good effort by PSA engineers to get another little homage to the Dee, under the radar. Fiat's Selespeed is more faithful being hydraulic, but it wasn't licenced to Citroën.

[CitroJim]

John (charentejohn) has spent a good amount of time and trouble to put together an excellent SensoDrive faultfinding guide and this has been posted in the Handy Hints and Tips area here:

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... 11&t=50125" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This thread is a reference thread and must not drift way off-topic as this one has John is keen to receive comments and additions to his excellent work and those should be posted in the reference thread an not here..

To ensure that is so, this thread is now closing. The F1 comments in this topic will be spun off into the gravel of French Car Chat so the topic can continue there

Ant posts if this thread that would be good to include in the reference thread can be moved. Please advise one of the admin/mod staff to enable that to be done.

John, many thanks for your work, it is much appreciated