new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
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new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
I replaced a front abs sensor which gave zero resistance, with a new one supposedly matched for the car, and noticed this new one has a resistance which is slightly higher at 1135 ohms than the usual quoted 1080 ohms.
Do you know, Is this discrepancy likely to pass the static abs ECU checks, or adversely affect them? (I haven't got her rolling yet, to try clearing the abs fault light - waiting for a hydraulic pipe, to fit).
While we're here, could you tell me where the abs relay is found on a Xantia II? (not sure I'm getting any abs light blinks, unless they are very fast, and I miss them).
cheers,
John
Do you know, Is this discrepancy likely to pass the static abs ECU checks, or adversely affect them? (I haven't got her rolling yet, to try clearing the abs fault light - waiting for a hydraulic pipe, to fit).
While we're here, could you tell me where the abs relay is found on a Xantia II? (not sure I'm getting any abs light blinks, unless they are very fast, and I miss them).
cheers,
John
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
I take it you've not replaced it yet then John.. I must say it does seem a bit high but then again I've seen them a bit off resistance-wise and they seem OK in use... The S2 ECU may be a bit cleverer than just measuring the DC resistance of a sensor. It may be able to take a stab at measuring its impedance.
Is it a very economically priced one from ebay by any chance?
Best is to dis the old one at the connector and just loosely connect the new one to see if it passes. Then you've not wasted time properly fitting it if it is duff..
I've found the el-cheapo ebay ABS sensor offerings don't have a long life at all. One OI fitted to my S2 lasted about a year before going a bit intermittent and then dying totally.
I'm not even sure the S2 has an ABS relay. Never consciously noticed one where the S1 has it in the corner of the engine bay fuse box. If there is one it'll be dark green.
S1 and S2 ABS ECUs are very different and I'm not sure you see distinct flashes on an S2 as you do on the S1. I've never noticed them on my S2...
Is it a very economically priced one from ebay by any chance?
Best is to dis the old one at the connector and just loosely connect the new one to see if it passes. Then you've not wasted time properly fitting it if it is duff..
I've found the el-cheapo ebay ABS sensor offerings don't have a long life at all. One OI fitted to my S2 lasted about a year before going a bit intermittent and then dying totally.
I'm not even sure the S2 has an ABS relay. Never consciously noticed one where the S1 has it in the corner of the engine bay fuse box. If there is one it'll be dark green.
S1 and S2 ABS ECUs are very different and I'm not sure you see distinct flashes on an S2 as you do on the S1. I've never noticed them on my S2...
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new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
Thanks for thar considerate reply Jim.
Yes I've fitted it fully, but cannot roll until I get and fit a rear brake pipe. But I can't see how it can pass loosely connecting, because I think I have an abs lockout, and it needs to roll to clear that.
Yes it's a cheapo from eBay. Oh well, perhaps it may work, but not for long.
I'll spend more next time. It wasn't difficult at all to fit, really
My new 10mm worn bolt extractor socket came in handy removing the old one. A cinch. Glad I ordered the set - a draper one from Amazon.
I feel reassured by what you say about S2 blinking and also the use of sensors a bit off resistance-wise.
John
Yes I've fitted it fully, but cannot roll until I get and fit a rear brake pipe. But I can't see how it can pass loosely connecting, because I think I have an abs lockout, and it needs to roll to clear that.
Yes it's a cheapo from eBay. Oh well, perhaps it may work, but not for long.
I'll spend more next time. It wasn't difficult at all to fit, really
My new 10mm worn bolt extractor socket came in handy removing the old one. A cinch. Glad I ordered the set - a draper one from Amazon.
I feel reassured by what you say about S2 blinking and also the use of sensors a bit off resistance-wise.
John
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
I know that when we replaced the reluctor rings on Gracie CitroJim was able to get a speed reading on his ELIT system (with me just rotating the wheels by hand). I don't know if the Lexia would do the same.
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
Yes, it'll do exactly the same James..Hell Razor5543 wrote:I don't know if the Lexia would do the same.
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
Yes I could do with software. Can you get it for a Macintosh - I think not?
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
In that case it could be worth spinning the wheel by hand, to see if the ABS system accepts there is a sensor in place (or to see if the Lexia sees it and can convince the ABS system it is back in play).
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
I'll give it a go. By hand eh, so that exceeds the 20 kph threshold (or whatever it is)?
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
I don't know how the Lexia system would manage it. I also don't know if it would want all wheels turning. I do know that, when the Lexia found I had a failed O/S/R sensor, there was the option to clear the fault, but (as I had not yet replaced the sensor) this failed.
I do not believe there would be a Mac version of the Lexia.
I do not believe there would be a Mac version of the Lexia.
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
Problem is I think all wheels need to spin at the same speed above 20 kph to do the reset..
Is there a Lexia-carrying member near you John who could do the honours for you?
Is there a Lexia-carrying member near you John who could do the honours for you?
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
Ah!
Yes DickieG, about 10- 15 miles away, but I'd need to get her rolling anyway, Ho Ho
Yes DickieG, about 10- 15 miles away, but I'd need to get her rolling anyway, Ho Ho
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
Patience is a virtue, oh yes. I'll wait, by the fire, drinking tea and scoffing cake.
(That's not to delay things though).
(That's not to delay things though).
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
I am in Reading, I have a Lexia, and I have limited experience of it. I have got to replace Gracies' N/S/F brake calliper though, as the handbrake lever is not returning properly. I have a replacement, but I wasn't able to fit it today.
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new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
I think James, you mean you'd come over to help out if or when able: that's swellegant.
I'd say, no problem really I'll wait and see result on road first.
However, I'd appreciate a Lexia session at some point since taking her over earlier this year - may even be necessary quite soon if it doesn't clear with this replacement.
I'll keep your kind offer in mind.
Good luck.
John
I'd say, no problem really I'll wait and see result on road first.
However, I'd appreciate a Lexia session at some point since taking her over earlier this year - may even be necessary quite soon if it doesn't clear with this replacement.
I'll keep your kind offer in mind.
Good luck.
John
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Re: new abs sensor high at 1135 ohms and abs ECU checks
That is what I meant.
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