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xantia front end rattle

Post by aerodynamica »

But! Recent anti roll links, New ball joints and rod ends, seems to be drivers side - not severe but annoying when I feel it a little art my feet.

Had a look at the joints and can't get any movement any where save for a little at the anti roll bar bushing - would this be likely? Didn't think it moved enough- looks a pig to change
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Post by citronut »

were did you purchase all the new joints you fitted, as there are some orible ones out ther,
even in branded packets, especially by one national company that begins with a capital E :roll: :roll:
Regards, malcolm.

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1993 Xantia 1.9 TD VSX Mk1 Sinker A.K.A Slugmobile 13'
'Old Katy'
previous convictions: totaling 52litres of LHM in one go:
1968 ID19B 'Old Polly' Stellar white
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker Silver
1992 XM 2.0 SEi Turbo Manual Anthracite Grey
1982 CX 20 Pallas 'Old Goldy'
1993 XM 2.1 SD Auto Light blue
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker light Blue
1982 BX 16 TRS 'Cyril' Vallelunga Red
1995 Xantia 1.9 D SX Auto Dark green
1977 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Aphrodite' Regatta Blue
1982 GSA Pallas SE Silver Pearl
1980 CX 2000 Reflex Vallelunga Red
1978 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Prometheus' Midnight blue
1984 BX 14E 'Cecil the slugmobile' Maroon
1987 Fiat Panda 'the mighty panda'
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Post by aerodynamica »

I know Malcolm but I checked each for play and they are all tight
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previous convictions: totaling 52litres of LHM in one go:
1968 ID19B 'Old Polly' Stellar white
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker Silver
1992 XM 2.0 SEi Turbo Manual Anthracite Grey
1982 CX 20 Pallas 'Old Goldy'
1993 XM 2.1 SD Auto Light blue
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker light Blue
1982 BX 16 TRS 'Cyril' Vallelunga Red
1995 Xantia 1.9 D SX Auto Dark green
1977 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Aphrodite' Regatta Blue
1982 GSA Pallas SE Silver Pearl
1980 CX 2000 Reflex Vallelunga Red
1978 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Prometheus' Midnight blue
1984 BX 14E 'Cecil the slugmobile' Maroon
1987 Fiat Panda 'the mighty panda'
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Re: xantia front end rattle

Post by aerodynamica »

Yes it's only really showing a wee bit of movement at the roll bar bushing on that side. I don't know that these are maybe meant to have a bit of flex in them? They are rubber unlike the rigid type on BX and CX.

On the way home there it seems like an anti roll link but I replaced that with a brand new one last week

It is one of the oldest Xantias left so maybe something unusual coming loose?
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Post by citronut »

i have heard stories of cheap drop links failing within a very short period,

it is possible the drop limks can make a knocking noise even if you cant feel play in them
Regards, malcolm.

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Post by wotwot »

try removing drop links one at a time and take it for a drive to see if it is the drop links ??.
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wotwot wrote:try removing drop links one at a time and take it for a drive to see if it is the drop links ??.
no need to test drive the car, as you can feel loose balls whooops i mean ball joints, just by disconnecting them and giving each one a wiggle, see how loose they feel,

even if you cant feel; the play whilst they are still attached
Regards, malcolm.

current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: xantia front end rattle

Post by Mandrake »

Graeme, check your LHM tank oil for bubbling on the surface when the engine is running (especially on initial startup) and check each end of the feed hose from the LHM tank to the HP pump very carefully for air leaks - it needs to be absolutely air tight, on older hoses if they've been off and refitted its sometimes hard to get a perfect air tight seal, and it does matter.

Believe it or not sufficient air in the hydraulic system can cause a front end rattle/vibration over broken surfaces that feels very like worn droplinks...just something to think about if you can't find a mechanical cause...have a read of the "10 minute mod" thread for some background information:

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... =3&t=44923" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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another rattle could be be caliper has lost its spring clip
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