Xsara - did clutch - now key symbol lit

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Xsara - did clutch - now key symbol lit

Post by xsaras4ever »

Xsaras , you gotta love them.

We have 4 in our family.

We have 2 family cars - a Phase 2 hdi Estate - lovely car - but airbag symbol always lit.

A phase 1, 1.9 DW8 Estate - smokes and misfires every morning - then runs great.

One of our 19 year old sons has just done an engine swap - now his diesel pump doesn't like his key - see other posts.

We have just done a clutch for our other 19 year old son.

He has a Phase 1 xsara, 1.9 xud , non turbo.

Here is the sequence of events.

Removed battery
Removed driveshafts.
Removed air filter housing.
Unbolted starter.
Disconnected some wiring to make access to gearbox easier.
Removed gearbox - removed clutch

Waited a week for new parts (battery disconnected all week)

Fitted new clutch.
Put everything back.


Turned key. Key symbol flashing.
After 30 secs key symbol stops, but strangely glowplug light does not go out.
Engine does not turn over.

Strangely, on our other sons DW8, even though the key does not talk to the diesel pump , the engine does turn on the starter.

How can a clutch change interfere with the key ?

4 Xsaras , none of them working properly.

Help !!!!!

PS: We finally have a Lexia on order.
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Post by citroenxm »

Your hint is with "Removed some wires and plugs to gain access"

What about Incorrect connection of plugs etc? Thats what Id be think of, and is highly likely!
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Post by flying clutchman »

Make sure the gearbox earth is connected would be my first suggestion. My second would probably be to get a large bulldozer(only joking)
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Post by wheeler »

I'll second a problem with the gearbox earth lead, not tightened up properly or got damaged during the work ??
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Post by citroenxm »

I dont third that. The gearbox earth will cause a Starter Issue or Atinator charge issue, but not the Key issue.

The transponder is on the Steering colum, and the ECU is behind the dash.

I still reckon a cross connection of plugs. Im not familliar with the Xsara harness setup, but the Xantia one crosses the engine, but is ALL one and is plugged each end of the engine bay.. BUT the XM's have a number of plugs above the gearbox...
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Re: Xsara - did clutch - now key symbol lit- FIXED

Post by xsaras4ever »

Hello all and thanks for the help.

After reading citroenxm's first posting about wiring connections we checked it over again and yes - gearbox earth lead !!!!

Cleaned it , really tightened it ,BINGO - all is well.


Finally a problem fixed.

Thanks again
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Post by citroenxm »

It was flyingclutchman who sugested the gearbox earth lead tightness. I cant take credit for that..

Well done.. knew it was only something small..
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Post by flying clutchman »

It's bitter experience that made me suggest the earth lead. Whenever strange lights come on for no reason and the startere doesn't turn, it's the earth lead. No need for the bulldozer now!
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Post by spider »

I did this on a 406 once, put it back together, non start. Warning lights appeared to work.

Investigated found one of the large earth straps not refitted :oops: , refitted and all good.
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