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Got in the C4 Pic this morning and soon as I turned it on it beeped and the service light come on :shock: Uh-oh thinks I, what's up with it now? Was mightly relived a couple of seconds later when the message "Remote control battery flat" popped up, then the service light went out [-o<

That's a bit too clever for my liking.... off to buy a new battery now, so my heart doesn't skip every time I go to start it :lol:
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I know how you feel; recently spent a full day fixing the washer (simply couldn't afford a service call or new machine; all good in the end) then yesterday it paused between cycles exactly when the neighbour operated his tailgate lift! A loud electrohydraulic "Whirrr!" and the machine had stopped dead. I damn near had a heart attack.
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Very funny, Addo!

Was tinkering with the Xantia this afternoon - been meaning to relay the headlights for a long time. Got the NS done, but not enough cable / fittings to do the other side, and I wanted to make sure the first side works for a while (see above about heart skipping!). Easy enough - but found that the bottom mount on the NS light is broken - presumably from the car-vs-drainpipe incident a couple of years ago - so I wasn't imagining the light vibrating when driving! On the up side the short battery disconnection has brought the steering wheel radio controls back to life for the first time in a year - they went off in a previous battery disconnection incident :rofl2:

On the C4 couldn't find a battery locally, but then a bit of net research showed that the number quoted in the handbook is wrong. Got some new ones ordered up from the bay for next to nothing 8-)

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I think the battery strength affects the unlock sigal strength, so when the locking ECU detects the signal below a certain level it will warn you so your not stuck with a flat battery...
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I don't think its determined by received signal strength, if it was unlocking the car from a large distance would falsely trigger it.

I believe that the fob measures the voltage of the battery directly while under load and if its below a certain voltage it sends a slightly different code to the car which informs the car of the flat battery. (as well as commanding it to unlock) All it would require is a single bit of the the code word to be reserved for battery ok/flat status.

Some IR remotes for things like cable boxes use the same technique where the remote sends a slightly different IR code when the battery is flat so that the box knows and can display a flat battery warning.
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'tis electrickery.
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tis electrickery.
NO it is not.....its SCIENCE
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Its when it starts shouting at you random messages for no reason which is the point to worry. I don't think earlier C5s have this, I had to replace the battery in one of the C5s remotes yesterday. The car didn't tell me, fortunately I was able to tell for myself as the key no longer worked when it was cold ...
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Random messages - it did that before... started squawking about the handbrake after starting. Presumed the battery was a bit tired so bought a new one (a 'Starting Bull' :rofl2: ) which has fixed that. Old one went onto my Xantia though, and still provides a good cranking speed a year later.... mind you, that has a pretty easy duty cycle - generally cold start then 30 mile trip to re-charge twice a day, rather than the Pic which gets used for more short stuff with the Children.

Fitted a new remote battery last night - first one I was still getting the message, so fitted another one (got 5 from ebay for £1.10 - postage must have been nearly that!), and that stopped the message.
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