2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
RichardW Many thanks for the link
Thanks to CitroJim in advance for that thread
Thanks to CitroJim in advance for that thread
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Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
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Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
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Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
Going OK until ....
Last couple of days a slight rumbling/knocking noise has been catching my ears from the drivers side engine footwell area ....during an inspection of the underbody today I asked the Mrs to raise the cars suspension into the higher position just to allow better access ....once fully highered I told her to turn the engine off whilst I looked for something loose causing the knocking noise - nothing obvious caught my eye .... the Mrs commented that it was quite nice sitting there in the sun ....then asked me if " I wanted it back down"
yes I said (no longer under the car I hasten to add)
so she moved the lever to the central position without starting the engine and has blown a suspension pipe
5270 Z4 (Nearside front pigs tail) according to Citroen service £37.84 will check tomorrow to see if my local can get hold of one
Obviously a lesson learnt to have the engine running probably due to give way soon anyway .... but I wont tell her that
Last couple of days a slight rumbling/knocking noise has been catching my ears from the drivers side engine footwell area ....during an inspection of the underbody today I asked the Mrs to raise the cars suspension into the higher position just to allow better access ....once fully highered I told her to turn the engine off whilst I looked for something loose causing the knocking noise - nothing obvious caught my eye .... the Mrs commented that it was quite nice sitting there in the sun ....then asked me if " I wanted it back down"
yes I said (no longer under the car I hasten to add)
so she moved the lever to the central position without starting the engine and has blown a suspension pipe
5270 Z4 (Nearside front pigs tail) according to Citroen service £37.84 will check tomorrow to see if my local can get hold of one
Obviously a lesson learnt to have the engine running probably due to give way soon anyway .... but I wont tell her that
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On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
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Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
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Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
5270 Z4 (Nearside front pigs tail)
Citroen no longer supply
Anyone know of someone who custom makes these lines?
Goes from front regulator to a connector near the chassis leg behind the gearbox (looks tight access that end)
Is it possible to patch the burst bit (pigs tail loops) with some 3/16" brake line kit
My only car so the pressure is on ( ) to fix her quick and preferably cheap ... the push bike is a killer
Citroen no longer supply
Anyone know of someone who custom makes these lines?
Goes from front regulator to a connector near the chassis leg behind the gearbox (looks tight access that end)
Is it possible to patch the burst bit (pigs tail loops) with some 3/16" brake line kit
My only car so the pressure is on ( ) to fix her quick and preferably cheap ... the push bike is a killer
On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
Pleiades.
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
Cheers Xac
On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
Right, luckily when the suspension pipe blew the car was at home on the driveway suspension in high mode, tried to get it back to normal ride height but with the front left pigs tail leaking she doesn't seem to want to lower down.
Presuming that Pleiades will need the pipe for a pattern to copy I need to get the suspension in low mode and depressurised prior to removal of the burst pipe.
Messy with the engine running and doesn't seem to want to lower herself anyway.
So at the moment I've jacked her up, chocked at the rear and got the front wheels fully sat on ramps.
Is there anyway to depressurise the suspension and if so how can I get her into low mode without running the engine
Presuming that Pleiades will need the pipe for a pattern to copy I need to get the suspension in low mode and depressurised prior to removal of the burst pipe.
Messy with the engine running and doesn't seem to want to lower herself anyway.
So at the moment I've jacked her up, chocked at the rear and got the front wheels fully sat on ramps.
Is there anyway to depressurise the suspension and if so how can I get her into low mode without running the engine
On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
If the pipe's burst, then as long as the engine isn't running there will be no pressure in the pipe so you can just remove it.
Give Pleiades a call, they've been in the business since DS days if memory serves, so can probably just make you up a replacement pipe and post it to you (unless it's the pipe with the rubber section, they'll need that to thread the new pipe onto).
You just bend the pipe to fit and screw in the ends.
Give Pleiades a call, they've been in the business since DS days if memory serves, so can probably just make you up a replacement pipe and post it to you (unless it's the pipe with the rubber section, they'll need that to thread the new pipe onto).
You just bend the pipe to fit and screw in the ends.
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
Xac
Well if that's the case it will be a lot easier (hopefully)
It's the non rubber one so will call them now ...
Many thanks - I was scared that there would be some pressure lurking in there
Well if that's the case it will be a lot easier (hopefully)
It's the non rubber one so will call them now ...
Many thanks - I was scared that there would be some pressure lurking in there
On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
Part ordered ....via Pleiades that was so easy .... and cheaper than Citroen
Cheers Xac
Cheers Xac
On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
They're great, and know their stuffSkull wrote:Part ordered ....via Pleiades that was so easy .... and cheaper than Citroen
Cheers Xac
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
Whilst waiting for the part to arrive I made a start on removing the old pipe front 9mm bolt on the accumulator no problem.
The rear of the pipe where it connects to the safety valve is a nightmare access plus it's mega tight ....
I decided to cut the pipe as close to the edge of the bolt as possible leaving a stub of pipe to allow a long 9mm socket to reach the 'flats' on the bolt .... I'm now down to a 8mm socket that's just rubbing the rust away
As a guide to how much effort I'm using the bracket that the safety valve is attached to is twisting
Going to acquire some smaller sockets tomorrow and try them but I'm not too hopeful ... anyone replaced one of these
If so how much did you have to rip out to get proper access the the bolts on the safety valve ....It looks a big job and if that's the case I might as well replace the other pipe on the safety valve (3.5mm)
I'm beginning to wish I'd tried to patch repair the pigs tail section only but obviously it's too late for that now and it's probably a dodgy method
The rear of the pipe where it connects to the safety valve is a nightmare access plus it's mega tight ....
I decided to cut the pipe as close to the edge of the bolt as possible leaving a stub of pipe to allow a long 9mm socket to reach the 'flats' on the bolt .... I'm now down to a 8mm socket that's just rubbing the rust away
As a guide to how much effort I'm using the bracket that the safety valve is attached to is twisting
Going to acquire some smaller sockets tomorrow and try them but I'm not too hopeful ... anyone replaced one of these
If so how much did you have to rip out to get proper access the the bolts on the safety valve ....It looks a big job and if that's the case I might as well replace the other pipe on the safety valve (3.5mm)
I'm beginning to wish I'd tried to patch repair the pigs tail section only but obviously it's too late for that now and it's probably a dodgy method
On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
Bolts out
I had to remove the road wheel and handbrake cable, bend the adjacent 3.5 mm pipe out of the way and re-cut the pipe even closer to the nut (a junior hacksaw just fitted) after manipulating the 3.5mm pipe - to allow a shallower socket on.
It did put up a massive fight for a little fella (4.5 mm pipe - 9mm bolt - 6 Ibs/ft recommended torque) Had to get some of these special extractor type sockets
Special Sockets
CitroJim's link tip took me a few edit tries
and a fair few extension bars, tried the impact wrench but it just laughed at me so got my 18v drill on it in the end thread looks OK but no sign of thread grease or a seal - (since found - dug it out with a dental pick).
Hopefully new pipe will arrive tomorrow ... for the refit ....
I had to remove the road wheel and handbrake cable, bend the adjacent 3.5 mm pipe out of the way and re-cut the pipe even closer to the nut (a junior hacksaw just fitted) after manipulating the 3.5mm pipe - to allow a shallower socket on.
It did put up a massive fight for a little fella (4.5 mm pipe - 9mm bolt - 6 Ibs/ft recommended torque) Had to get some of these special extractor type sockets
Special Sockets
CitroJim's link tip took me a few edit tries
and a fair few extension bars, tried the impact wrench but it just laughed at me so got my 18v drill on it in the end thread looks OK but no sign of thread grease or a seal - (since found - dug it out with a dental pick).
Hopefully new pipe will arrive tomorrow ... for the refit ....
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On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
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Missing AX 1.4D Echo - x 225
Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
Phoned today to chase up (4 working days)Xac wrote:They're great, and know their stuffSkull wrote:Part ordered ....via Pleiades that was so easy .... and cheaper than Citroen
Cheers Xac
They don't have any 4.5mm pipe in stock or in the near future .... I'm trying alternative companies to make up the pipe ......
On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
You might find Pirtek could help, or Hopespares http://www.hopespare.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Or Edwards http://www.edwardsandson.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Citroenxm might be able to help too.
Good luck with it.
Paul
Citroenxm might be able to help too.
Good luck with it.
Paul
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M reg 1.9d auto Xantia lx
N reg 1.9 td Xantia VSX Estate
T reg 2.0HDI Xantia Exclusive Estate Present car
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Re: 2.1 TD Xantia on a budget
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Thanks for those links ...I've sent it off to a local hydraulics engineer in the hope that they can custom make it for me.
I will report back when and if they are able to help ......
Thanks for those links ...I've sent it off to a local hydraulics engineer in the hope that they can custom make it for me.
I will report back when and if they are able to help ......
On my 4th Citroën Xantia (X2 HDi (110))
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch
Citroën sAXo Memphis Mk II
Gone
Xantia x3 (2.0i TCT Activa)(2.1 TD SX)(1.9 TD Estate)
Xsara HDi VTR Coupe / Saxo 1.1i / BX 1.9 d / 4 x AX's (1.4D /1.5D)
2 x 406 (1.9 TD Estate/2.1 TD Saloon) 405 1.9 D Estate 306 1.9 XTDT Hatch