is this part fitted to more than 1 car?

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is this part fitted to more than 1 car?

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mk1 berlingo 1.4 petrol

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part no 1351 CT

replaced my rad and i made an ar$e or removing this hose on my old 1, its now has a small leak coming from the join, my local scrapie only has berlingos that have different hoses :roll: , so im hoping there were fitted to other model of cars.

its 1 of those quick release jobbies, was thinking about trying to use PTFE tape but dont think that'd do much good.
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Which joint are you talking about ? if its the bottom hose to radiator one some Xantias, ZX, 306, 406 cars use that type of joint, you might get away with replacing the O ring ?
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that part No. only comes back as 2 documents for Berlingo's with an all families search on service citroen,

as below,

probaly fits the same pug partners as well

DURITE HOSE COOLING TU5JP4 INJECTION

DURITE HOSE COOLING INJECTION TU3JP AND W4 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION OR INJECTION TU3JP AND L4 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION OR TU1JP INJECTION AND W4 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION OR TU1JP INJECTION AND L4 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
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Stewart(oily) wrote:Which joint are you talking about ? if its the bottom hose to radiator one some Xantias, ZX, 306, 406 cars use that type of joint, you might get away with replacing the O ring ?
may try those thanks, its damn tight down there and trying to push the hose in is a struggle even with my small hands, are u meant to leave the clip in place and push the hose on or push the on then put the clip on?
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you need to lub the seal on the neck of the nose with the like of Vaseline,
and i would leave the wire clip off till the hose if fully home,

its a horrible idea

my late MK1 XANT has the same type of fitting, when i fitted a new rad, i could not get the old hose to seal and bought a new hose at around £40 quid
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yeah ive seem them listed on fleabay for around £45, money i'd rather not spend but.....................

dont see whats wrong with the conventional hose-outlet-jubilee clip, been fine for decades.
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dont see whats wrong with the conventional hose-outlet-jubilee clip, been fine for decades.

Because it takes more time to fit in the factory, lots of things are designed to make it easy and cheap to manufacture rather than easy to maintain.
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if the metal seal carrier on the end of your hose is in good order ( not all rusty ), it might pay to at least buy a new seal which is No. 3 in your drawing above

Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
00001343Z4 END-PIEC GASKET 0.64 GBP 0.77 GBP 0.77 GBP

bottom hose from citroen which should come with new seals is cheaper than ebay

Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
00001351CT WTR OUTLET HOSE 34.43 GBP 41.32 GBP 41.32 GBP
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citronut wrote:
its a horrible idea

my late MK1 XANT has the same type of fitting, when i fitted a new rad, i could not get the old hose to seal and bought a new hose at around £40 quid
When I last came across this, I binned the crap rad, and fitted an earlyer "Proper" Rad and top and bottom hoses, because I had them spare...

This arrangement cant of worked well, or they recived loads of moans for leaks etc, it was deleated on S2 Xantias, and they went back to "Normal" hose clips again..
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citroenxm wrote:This arrangement cant of worked well, or they recived loads of moans for leaks etc, it was deleated on S2 Xantias, and they went back to "Normal" hose clips again..
I doubt moans (even from dealers) would have had any effect. I suspect the reason for reverting to a conventional arrangement was the cost of warranty claims. Nothing concentrates the minds of the bean counters as giving back money! :-D
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anyone know the I/D of the hose at the rad end?
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Do you mean bayonet connection??
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citroenxm wrote:Do you mean bayonet connection??
yes, the I/D of the problematic bottom hose.
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I have located a spare S2 Xantia bottom hose in my spares pile, unfortunately the very end where the rubber seal sits is corroded away in places, the ID of the hose comes out at approximately 35mm so if you can obtain an intact metal end then a splice would not be out of the question.
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Stewart(oily) wrote:I have located a spare S2 Xantia bottom hose in my spares pile,

oily
we are taking Berlingo here, i dont know how the Xant hose diameter compares with the Berlingop one,

on service citroen it only fits the Berlingo in an all families search
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