Synergie recurring problem

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citronut
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Synergie recurring problem

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when we got my daughters synergie it had a loose N/S front swivel pin,
which we ended up fitting a second hand hub that seemed to be ok and got it through the MOT,

flippin things gone loose again, seems to be a common fault on these,

so apart from welding :-D the hub to the swivel pin what is the long term fix
Regards, malcolm.

current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Synergie recurring problem

Post by Stewart(oily) »

Is that the lower balljoint ? is it the non taper type with a pinchbolt ? a la ZX ? If so I would be quite tempted to buy a nice new strong bolt and tighten to four white knuckles. :wink:
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not bought a nice new strong bolt yet, but did give it a bit more with my 2 foot knuckle bar :twisted: :shock: :-D :wink:

trouble is if you give it to much welly you could fracture the cast iron hub
Regards, malcolm.

current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Synergie recurring problem

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nudge nudge

has anyone ever permanently fixed this fault,

short of welding the BBBBB ball joint to the hub :shock: :twisted: :-D :wink:
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Regards, malcolm.

current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Post by BX »

I am probably wrong but i think there may have been the possibility of 2 different ball joint pins. The pinch bolt as far as I remember is an M10 8.8 bolt. If you want to be able to really welly it up replace it with a 12.9 bolt. They usually come in socket cap format.
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BX wrote:I am probably wrong but i think there may have been the possibility of 2 different ball joint pins. The pinch bolt as far as I remember is an M10 8.8 bolt. If you want to be able to really welly it up replace it with a 12.9 bolt. They usually come in socket cap format.
thanks for that,
but i would not feel happy straining the case iron hub/pinch clamp to much, as it then risks fracturing it,

bin thinking why it keeps recurring,
it might be the lower swivel has worn into its cup/seat to much, so struggles to rotate with the steering being turned,

any more suggestions
Regards, malcolm.

current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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