Xsara Picasso rusty corroded sills anti corrosion boast fail

[CGATCX25GTITURBO]

it can be put down as an advisory only

I have got half a clue with MOTs

[TooMany2cvs]

I'm suprised there isn't a public outcry over this, these cars should be lasting 12 years according to the marketing.

You would think there would be something in EU law that would prevent Citroen bragging about how long the cars shell will last before rust sets in

A warranty isn't a promise that nothing'll go wrong - it's effectively just a contract agreeing to rectify anything that does go wrong, subject to the Ts & Cs of that contract. No more, no less.

[CGATCX25GTITURBO]

I'm suprised there isn't a public outcry over this, these cars should be lasting 12 years according to the marketing.

You would think there would be something in EU law that would prevent Citroen bragging about how long the cars shell will last before rust sets in

A warranty isn't a promise that nothing'll go wrong - it's effectively just a contract agreeing to rectify anything that does go wrong, subject to the Ts & Cs of that contract. No more, no less.

Agreed but there must be some form of confidence in the product too one would think. They wouldn't go in to the market place with something they expect to fail and have to repair.

[Gibbo2286]

I think you expect far too much from the car maker, you have a complex machine out in all weather conditions, driven by every kind of motorist from boy racer to enthusiast and you expect the supplier to guarantee it won't rust, ever?

By your own admission you haven't kept your side of the bargain up by having the specified checks done but you still think that after nine years they should be responsible,

If you look back just a few short years you'll find cars two and three years old were not just rusty but falling apart with serious chassis rust.

[TooMany2cvs]

By your own admission you haven't kept your side of the bargain up by having the specified checks done but you still think that after nine years they should be responsible,

Whilst that certainly breaches the terms of the warranty contract, don't forget that Neil has said that his dealer looked at it before investigating, and agreed that the inspections would not have flagged any issue up.

The more important warranty-get-out issue is that the warranty explicitly covers against perforating corrosion from the inside out - and this isn't. It hasn't (yet) perforated, and there's some doubt about whether it's inside out or originating under the paint on the outside.

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[citronut]

i just had another look at the picy's and it looks like the edge/lip/seam has been jacked on, as the bottom edge has been flattened,
this will cause/encourage rust to start as it breaks the under body/paint seal

[CGATCX25GTITURBO]

I think you expect far too much from the car maker, you have a complex machine out in all weather conditions, driven by every kind of motorist from boy racer to enthusiast and you expect the supplier to guarantee it won't rust, ever?

By your own admission you haven't kept your side of the bargain up by having the specified checks done but you still think that after nine years they should be responsible,

If you look back just a few short years you'll find cars two and three years old were not just rusty but falling apart with serious chassis rust.

My car hadn't reached it's 8th aniversary when I discovered this and had to have started rusting before, its not suddenly happend to a 9 year old car.

I've never debated not having the inspections done, that was in my opening to Citroen too(I was happy with my own weekly cleaning - checking all was well with the car). I was trying to flag up to others to keep a close eye on their cars.... There were no obvious signs with mine. This is happing in the same area on Xsara Picassos, people intending to keep theirs may like to check this area and take more preventative measures. Mine had to have the stone chip removed to find this. The stone chip is so good it hides this, I'm not accusing anyone of hidding this deliberately, yet if a car dealer did this to you, you may be a little miffed.

I also quoted I was used to earlier cars rusting, I've been no stranger to repairing those.

1988 CX estate


Things HAVE come on a long way, My BXs had scratches to the body work 'the metal parts' and never showed any signs of rusting. Sadly when I wash my cars I look at the sills to check the integrity of the stone chip underseal also after visits to the tyre centres ETC. My XM was crashed in to and paint fell off the panels, it was parked outside for months after waiting for the claim to come through and it never rusted, so I've seen improvements over time. So why shouldn't I have expected this car to last the 12 years following the improvements we've seen to body protection. One would hope Manufacturers don't make offers of corrosion warranties for fun or continually have to service.

These cars are in the price bracket to the likes of us on these forums, where we turn for help and advice. I have just shared my experience to that effect, I also shared it with Citroen that made their own call. First was to dismiss me immediately then to revisit it after the dealer had looked at it. Dismiss me again, then offer 25% of the replacing the sill costs. I asked then if the damaged parts could be cut away to lessen the cost of repair to us both, The reply from that came back... no Citroen could be held liable if something suffered after being repaired, and dispite my offering to then sign a disclaimer I was told Citroen would only contribute if I had the sills replaced and that would cost ME £1200 (one way to get out of actually paying out, as I couldn't justify that amount myself). I asked why they wouldn't be okay for the body shop to replace the corroded metal, its what body shops do all day long replace damaged panels, either complete or in section. I was told again Citroen would only contribute if I replaced the sills. This acknowledges there was a problem in MY case, all others would be judged in their own merit.

May be I should have just opened a topic, I've just found my Xsara Picasso has rusty sills look after yours.

[Eddie Nuff]

It would be interesting to see if drilling holes has really helped yours, my drain holes were clear.

I really can't say whether drilling two small holes has stopped the sills from rusting. They may have stayed solid without doing this. I'd heard the stories of the sills rotting at the front from the inside because of there being no means of the water escaping.

[CGATCX25GTITURBO]

It would be interesting to see if drilling holes has really helped yours, my drain holes were clear.

I really can't say whether drilling two small holes has stopped the sills from rusting. They may have stayed solid without doing this. I'd heard the stories of the sills rotting at the front from the inside because of there being no means of the water escaping.

The drain holes were definately clear on mine, I could push tie wraps through them and when the heater fan was on full speed I could feel air flowing through the sill drain holes

[CGATCX25GTITURBO]

well, this is what's going on inside the sills. Definately inside out rust, and been going on for a while.

[addo]

Nice clean cuts on the spots.

[CGATCX25GTITURBO]

It's being repaired at the main agents that painted my CX, the repair should be a good one, I'm not ready for blacked up sills yet. At least I know the car rather than buying another.

[Huskyxantia]

One thing I noticed from collecting the car, the windows always mist up. I mentioned this and was told it's what Picassos do, just run the the AC and it will be fine, and it was. That moisture has to go somewhere, my sills drains are kept clear.

My point here is there will be many, like the ones I found, my neighbours 55 plate is showing the signs, tap the sills of ones that don't look suspect. Mine looked perfect.

The door to will gap is so tight the water sits there till you open the doors and it runs away
Was the Picasso a rushed design they were all trying back then to make cars lighter..