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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by citronut » 21 Mar 2013, 14:37

ask you local dealer to do a dealer search
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by taffy » 21 Mar 2013, 19:58

Thanks malcom
Well I went to my local dealee and he showed me on screen it was nft so to go on service.citroen an see them there was mad!...there were four under The heading and two were nft which makes me think thou....
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96 blue 1.8i xantia lx
97 red 2.0i xantia sx
00 red 2.0 hdi estate xantia sx
97 black 1.9td xantia sx
00 grey 2.0 hdi 110 exclusive xantia
99 silver 2.1td exclusive xantia
99 red 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia..
00 black 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia
99 blue 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia

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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by citronut » 21 Mar 2013, 20:14

taffy
i think your dealer is wrong on the two part No.'s, " 5271E2 5271E5 " as here is what is listed on service citroen,
which is what cit dealers look parts up on

2
5271 C0
NFP

HYD SUSPENSION SPHERE BRACKET
LEFT
- EXCEPT POWER STEERING
+ 5271 92 (01)

5271 E1
LEFT
- POWER STEERING AND WITHOUT HYDRACTIVE SUSPENSION
+ 5271 92 (01) TO O 7244


5271 E2
LEFT
- POWER STEERING AND HYDRACTIVE SUSPENSION
+ 5271 92 (01) TO O 7244

5271 C1
NFP
RIGHT
- EXCEPT POWER STEERING
+ 5271 92 (01)

5271 E4
RIGHT
- POWER STEERING AND WITHOUT HYDRACTIVE SUSPENSION
+ 5271 92 (01) TO O 7244

5271 E5
RIGHT
- POWER STEERING AND HYDRACTIVE SUSPENSION
+ 5271 92 (01) TO O 7244

only two of this list state NFP but not the two you mention
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by taffy » 21 Mar 2013, 20:43

Yes your right!! So I worried everyone cause of a error.....feel awefull lol...well I will go bk there with these codes an see what he says....
Thanks for ur help...
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96 blue 1.8i xantia lx
97 red 2.0i xantia sx
00 red 2.0 hdi estate xantia sx
97 black 1.9td xantia sx
00 grey 2.0 hdi 110 exclusive xantia
99 silver 2.1td exclusive xantia
99 red 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia..
00 black 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia
99 blue 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia

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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Hell Razor5543 » 21 Mar 2013, 22:38

Taffy, if I encountered something I thought was a problem I would update everybody I knew who could be affected. If it turned out it wasn't a problem, great, otherwise people can deal with it.
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by taffy » 21 Mar 2013, 22:58

Well im glad then lol....happy ending can finally get those struts! Learnt a lot on The way an no doubt there's a heap more hahaa well not giving up on her our cars are rarer then ost cars now...it said 300 odd in this country for my model on The dvla thing....stunning cars awesome hobby
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97 red 2.0i xantia sx
00 red 2.0 hdi estate xantia sx
97 black 1.9td xantia sx
00 grey 2.0 hdi 110 exclusive xantia
99 silver 2.1td exclusive xantia
99 red 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia..
00 black 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by citronut » 22 Mar 2013, 08:44

taffy wrote: well not giving up on her our cars are rarer then ost cars now...it said 300 odd in this country for my model on The dvla thing....stunning cars awesome hobby


and looking at your signature you own them all :shock: :-D :wink:
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by taffy » 23 Mar 2013, 08:14

Haha yea those are some I had I can't list The rest cause not enough room...my last is my current...did u know there are only jus over 300 hdi exclusives in uk now...getting very rare now!!
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96 blue 1.8i xantia lx
97 red 2.0i xantia sx
00 red 2.0 hdi estate xantia sx
97 black 1.9td xantia sx
00 grey 2.0 hdi 110 exclusive xantia
99 silver 2.1td exclusive xantia
99 red 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia..
00 black 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by taffy » 23 Mar 2013, 08:20

Lol I already said that didn I lmao!
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96 blue 1.8i xantia lx
97 red 2.0i xantia sx
00 red 2.0 hdi estate xantia sx
97 black 1.9td xantia sx
00 grey 2.0 hdi 110 exclusive xantia
99 silver 2.1td exclusive xantia
99 red 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia..
00 black 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia
99 blue 2.0 hdi exclusive xantia

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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by citronut » 23 Mar 2013, 10:12

taffy wrote:Lol I already said that didn I lmao!


not one of them there senior moments :shock: :-D :wink:
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Re: please help! Strut Tops. Haynes

Post by Old-Guy » 24 Mar 2013, 11:54

Although I know in theory exactly how to do it, I haven't yet done the job - waiting for anew strut mount to come from France. Making a check list, I had one small query, so late last night I had a look at the BoL (Haynes Xantia 1993-98 Service and Repair). I couldn't make sense of it (nor did it even refer to my issue), so went to bed. This morning, I re-read it carefully - it wasn't tiredness, the BoL does not make sense, it tells you to drain the "the suspension sphere hydraulic unit" via the "hydraulic pressure regulator bleed screw" (NO NEVER) and later "Lift the assembly [strut attached to mount] up and withdraw it through the engine compartment" - why would you do that even if it was physically possible?

So for the benefit of anyone else PLEASE IGNORE THE BoL on changing strut mounts. As this has become a job that will have to be done on every Xantia that is to survive, I will write a comprehensive set of instructions once I've actually done the job (unlike Haynes) and post it for the experts to pick to pieces - unless of course someone else has written one and I just can't find it! :(

Please could an authority (Jim?) solve my niggling doubt: On reassembly, does the port in the strut shaft have to be kept aligned with the sphere port in the strut mount, or is there an annular groove in the mount taper to maintain feed?
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by citronut » 24 Mar 2013, 23:58

the BOL might be referring to a car that has had sever strut top failure, then you might be able to pull the strut up through into the engine bay :twisted: :shock: :-D :wink:

the ole in the strut top is a tapper, you must put insulation tape around the thread of the strut to stop the thread damaging the O rings in the strut top neck
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Xantidote » 25 Mar 2013, 01:55

Old-Guy wrote:or is there an annular groove in the mount taper to maintain feed?


Yes, no need worry about orientation
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Old-Guy » 25 Mar 2013, 16:34

Thank you Malcolm and Martin. I was planning on tying a noose a noose in thin cord to pull the strut shaft up, but didn't think about protecting the seals from damage by the threads. At least I don't need to worry about orientation!

the BOL might be referring to a car that has had severe strut top failure, then you might be able to pull the strut up through into the engine bay :twisted: :shock: :-D :wink:
I thought it happened automatically. :wink:

The irony is that there were three advisories on the MoT: both front brake hose showing slight signs of degradation (same as last year!) and "Slight corrosion starting by offside front sphere mounting underbonnet." In fairness, the dire state of the Strut Mount flange was probably hidden in the muck under the wing. Before I started doing the head gasket, I pressure-washed the whole car, paying particular attention to under the O/S/F wing knowing I would have to take off the inner liner and fiddle around under there. In my enthusiasm I probably dislodged the flaking remains of the mounting's flange!
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Old-Guy » 16 Apr 2013, 13:41

Personal Update

The new (right-hand) mount finally arrived and was fitted more than a week ago. Fairly straight-forward job with the helpful tips from forum members (thanks gentlemen), but I discovered a few more things the hard way. The strut shaft was good-and-tight in the taper - after whacking it as hard as I dared with a 4lb hammer several times, I cautiously 'bumped' (dropped from a height of 2-3 inches) it with a 14lb sledge-hammer - it dropped straight out.

One week and 150 miles later, no sign of any leaks - job's a good 'un.

The new mount looks (bits of slight rust despite being in an anti-rust bag) as though it's been in store several years - I'd say stock is running out. :(
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