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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Chris570 » 04 Mar 2013, 20:34

Old-Guy wrote:Karolis Galinis Innovative company (elastomer.eu) replied promptly to my e-mail last week:

"You should send your old Citroen Xantia strut mounts (tops) to us, we will renovate and send them back to you. Repair costs 75 EUR + VAT(21%) for a unit. Two strut mounts will cost 140 EUR + VAT. Four strut mounts 270 EUR + VAT. Six strut mounts 400 EUR + VAT. Repair will take 5 working days. Shipping with tracking number Kaunas, Lithuania > UK, 2 strut mounts will cost 37 EUR + VAT; 4 strut mounts 47 EUR + VAT; 6 strut mounts 50 EUR + VAT. Shipping will take 5 working days.

We also have strut mounts with 17mm central hole hydractive (large feed pipe ~10mm diameter) and also non-hydractive (small pipe ~4mm diameter) already renovated and ready for sale for 100 EUR + VAT + shipping for a unit."

Please can any forum member vouch for them and how did they arrange payment .


I can 100% vouch for them, i had my XM ones done with them and the service was top notch. I will be having my second spare set done with them.
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by citroenxm » 04 Mar 2013, 20:49

Ive not personally but know someone who has and i can also give a 200% vouch !! they do also build in an anti spear ring that prevents the strut from bending the bonnet in the future should they rot..
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Old-Guy » 05 Mar 2013, 16:58

Chris, thanks for the confirmation. I was just a little wary of dealing with a foreign company.

citroenxm wrote:...They do also build in an anti spear ring that prevents the strut from bending the bonnet in the future should they rot..

Now why didn't Citroen do that? :wink: Answers on a post card.
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Chris570 » 05 Mar 2013, 17:50

Old-Guy wrote:Chris, thanks for the confirmation. I was just a little wary of dealing with a foreign company.

citroenxm wrote:...They do also build in an anti spear ring that prevents the strut from bending the bonnet in the future should they rot..

Now why didn't Citroen do that? :wink: Answers on a post card.


I could of course be wrong but a little voice in my head suggests that citroen did do as such for the s2's....
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Jeth » 13 Mar 2013, 17:52

I work at citroen dealer in finland and we can still get strut tops... What part number you were looking?
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Old-Guy » 16 Mar 2013, 11:59

Jeth - Thanks for that hugely useful bit of information; I had a look on service.citroen for the parts nos for my VIN No (it's an S1):
    HYD SUSPENSION SPHERE BRACKET

    5271 E1 LEFT + 5271 92 (01) to O 7244

    5271 E4 RIGHT + 5271 92 (01) to O 7244
To my surprise (I thought they weren't available), there's no NFP against any of these, so I phoned my local Citroen Dealer (usually quiet on a Saturday morning). The Strut Tops are available VOR (£138.68+VAT each) as is 5271 92 (£9.41), which I'll need [RP No 7015]. Total Retail: £149.97 which works out a bit cheaper than Karolis Galinis [elastomer.eu] at E150 + VAT (21%) and bank charges, and is faster and less hassle.

I'm almost certain that these new strut tops must be S2, so presumably the mysterious 5271 92 is some sort of adaptor to fit an S1 pipe into an S2 top - the reverse of what Taffy needed.

Can anyone tell me for certain please:
    If the part nos above are indeed S2 strut tops? (Does a non-Activa S2 VIN produce produce the same part nos)
    What exactly the mystery item (5271 92) looks like? (£10+ is a hell of a price for a little brass cylinder even from Citroen!)
    Do I also need a matching boot/gaiter because the original S1 version won't fit an S2 top? (like an idiot, I didn't ask for a price).
    If there are any other parts that I'll need or should replace?
All I've got to do now is to compile a sequence of operations for doing the job from the various posts on here - thanks chaps - while I wait for the parts to come. When I do the job, I'll take some photos of the parts (and the actual state of the strut top) and post them.
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by citronut » 17 Mar 2013, 09:05

part No. 5271 92 is the later strut boot, as the earlier ones the top/larger diameter is a different size so the old one wont fit/stay in place,

and yes the first No. is a strut top

02
5271 E1
01
HYD SUSPENSION SPHERE BRACKET
LEFT
- UNTIL RPO 08208

and here is part No.'s for non H/A at least for a MK1 anyhow

02
5271 E1
HYD SUSPENSION SPHERE BRACKET
LEFT
- UNTIL RPO 08208

5271 F5
LE-2009
LEFT
- SINCE RPO 08209 UNTIL RPO 08518

5271 E1
LEFT
- - SINCE RPO 08519

5271 E4
RIGHT
- UNTIL RPO 08208

5271 F6
LE-2009

RIGHT
- SINCE RPO 08209 UNTIL RPO 08518

5271 E4
RIGHT
- - SINCE RPO 08519

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if you have access to service citroen you should be able to view all
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Old-Guy » 17 Mar 2013, 18:32

Thanks for that, as I read your list, it seems to confirm that Citroen now list same strut tops for both S1 and S2 (non H/A). Yes, I do have access to service.citroen (which is down this arvo) but haven't managed to fathom out how to get parts lists without quoting a specific VIN.

The list of parts is getting longer - I'm guessing that 96 127 273 SUSPENSION BOOT RING is also required to fit the later boot/gaiter and I suppose it would be wise to fit a new Sphere Seal.
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by CitroJim » 17 Mar 2013, 20:53

Old-Guy wrote: haven't managed to fathom out how to get parts lists without quoting a specific VIN.


It's not intuitive Guy but basically...

Choose your car, say a Xantia II

Then complete the fields with drop-down choices where they ask about the body profile (silhouette) and engine type.

Then off you go...

No need of a VIN.

To swap cars without logging off and on again there is a link near the top on the left hand side called something like 'New Vehicle'
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by citronut » 18 Mar 2013, 09:05

no need for 96 127 273 ring, as doing an all families search it fits below

1 document(s) found for C2
1 document(s) found for C4 PICASSO
4 document(s) found for XANTIA
3 document(s) found for XANTIA II
1 document(s) found for BERLINGO (M59)
1 document(s) found for C5 (X7)
1 document(s) found for BERLINGO (B9)
1 document(s) found for C4
1 document(s) found for C5 II
1 document(s) found for DISPATCH III
1 document(s) found for C3 II
1 document(s) found for BERLINGO (M59)
1 document(s) found for C3 PICASSO
1 document(s) found for XSARA PICASSO
1 document(s) found for C3
1 document(s) found for BERLINGO (B9)
1 document(s) found for C3 (A51)

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Old-Guy wrote: haven't managed to fathom out how to get parts lists without quoting a specific VIN.


It's not intuitive Guy but basically...

Choose your car, say a Xantia II

Then complete the fields with drop-down choices where they ask about the body profile (silhouette) and engine type.

Then off you go...

No need of a VIN.

To swap cars without logging off and on again there is a link near the top on the left hand side called something like 'New Vehicle'


you dont need to touch the drop down model specific box's unless you are only interested in one particular model,

ignor those and just click confirm to the side of the drop down box's,
this will give all models which you can run comparisons with,

or if you just want to view exact items/parts for a chassis No. do as you were
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Old-Guy » 18 Mar 2013, 11:13

Gentlemen, thank you. All the bits are now ordered, a slightly eye-watering total, but a lot cheaper than replacing the car.

While trying to find out what the mystery part (5271 92), I came across this thread from 2008 in which AndersDK lists (on page 13) all the Xantia strut tops (HYD SUSPENSION SPHERE BRACKET) both S1 and S2.

[EDIT]
Mystery now solved: Searching service.citroen (you're dead right Jim, it's NOT intuitive!) and looking at Xantia II, 5271 92 is "FRONT HYD SUSPENSION CYL BOOT".
The parts page specific to my (S1) Xantia shows the Original Boot to fit the S1 Strut Mount with, against later type Strut mount the cryptic note "+ 5271 92 (1)" without any description; just the word BOOT would be enough. Simple when you know. Of course I ordered BOTH, but have managed to cancel the original one, saving a tenner.

Now I'm left wondering about seal/adaptor for the S1 pipe into S2 mount? I can't find any pipe seals listed on service.citroen.
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by taffy » 20 Mar 2013, 14:03

sorry ive missed something here....where can you get the strut tops from?
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by taffy » 20 Mar 2013, 14:20

00005271E2
00005271E5....aparently a lh and rh for my car...other two said nft....am i right in assuming i can buy theses
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by citronut » 20 Mar 2013, 19:57

seems they are still available from citroen below is price and part No.

Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
00005271E2 HYD SUSPENSION SPHERE BRACKET 137.42 GBP 164.90 GBP 164.90 GBP

00005271E5 HYD SUSPENSION SPHERE BRACKET 137.42 GBP 164.90 GBP 164.90 GBP
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Re: please help! Strut Tops.

Post by Old-Guy » 21 Mar 2013, 11:01

Depends what "Available" means. On Monday, I ordered 5271 E4 RIGHT HYD SUSPENSION SPHERE BRACKET on the understanding that it and the new boot would be here today (Thursday). After my local Citroen delaer had placed their daily order on Citroen UK, I got a call to say that this part is "on back order, scheduled for delivery to us (next Thursday)....I've tried other dealers in the area, nobody's got one in stock - sorry."

I'm dreading another call to say this part is now NFP, but I'll post a report in a week's time. Timing couldn't be worse - family arriving for Easter on Thursday evening!
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