xado, engine treatment

[bill196510]

Anyone usedit, I have and makes so much differance, first used in a 1996 transit luton, seriously
UnderPowered, not powerfull enough to tow caravan, or start on steep hill, also sorted noisy vibrating
Gearbox,
after about 650 miles turned Into a boy racer, lol.next used on 1985 peugeot 305, like a tractor,
about same speed aswell, did 574 miles in one day, did 62mph prior to xado, 95mph after,
Not sure about mpg increase as was good on fuel anyway, putting it in my c5 next week,
Need to use redex, to decarbon first, redex works aswell lol.before anyone says it dont,
But not noticable in petrol, due to them being fast anyway, could be due to clearing carbon
From diesel thats not present in petrol
My motto is, NEVER STICK YOUR NECK OUT, meaning, if you not 100% sure what you talking about
Say nothing, lol.

[andy5]

Here are the TÜV test results for the gel revitalisant product

http://ebookbrowse.com/tuv-report-eng-pdf-d88130457" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Summary: on a petrol Mazda, the power increased by about 2.5% and the fuel consumption improved by about 5%, and better emissions, deriving from restoring compression ratio, it seems

How does it differ from several other additives?

[Raul]

Has anyone used this kind of product in the hydraulic system? I bought the revitalisant gel meant for power steering and squeezed it in. So far I can not detect any major changes other than the "stop light" has completely disapeared after the start-up. I know a man who made an engine treatment with this product and tested the engine driving without oil ca 50 km. Nothing happend to the engine and it worked fine afterwards.

[chinkostu]

The stop light is meant to come on until the accumulators filled. Before i changed mine it ran purely on the pump and went out instantly but was dangerous. Unless the cars not long been off, mine will correct the back when off if its only been a few minutes.

Not sure if the PAS gel is actually LHM safe, doesnt ATF kill the seals?

[Stickyfinger]

Siiiiiiiiisssssanke oil

[Raul]

Siiiiiiiiisssssanke oil

How do you explain driving 50 km without oil? Even if lowering the friction is the only efect then I am satisfied.

[RichardW]

Nobody has driven 50km without oil.

I remember seeing a video test of one of these protection additives. Without oil, engine ran (unloaded) for 13 seconds or thereabouts.

[Raul]

Nobody has driven 50km without oil.

I remember seeing a video test of one of these protection additives. Without oil, engine ran (unloaded) for 13 seconds or thereabouts.

Even without treatment the engine runs many minutes without oil. At tickover unloaded it takes time before the engine locks. With this treatment the engine runs under load without oil even 300 km according to the manufacturerer.
The test I am talking about was 48 km in hard conditions ( a lot of snow ). The engine was rebuilt 10000 km before the treatment and test and it run fine afterwards for many years.

I am going to post this thread about that test, at page 5 you can see the engine inside after the test. Everything was fine.
http://www.ladaklubi.ee/foorum/viewthre ... 671&page=5

[Stickyfinger]

300 km according to the manufacturer.............hello

I do not like this

or this


Having spent 15 years as one of the main product development managers (5 in the EU, http://www.straumann.com/en/home/about- ... e-iti.html) during the development of initially, small bone fracture fixation then dental implants and their acceptance for EU/US use in Hospitals/General practice, I have been exposed to many many photos of components with tolerances as low as 5 microns which have been subjected to loading of many types.
The result of those experiences is: I do not believe in "wonder products" when it come to metals.

I have no problem that lubrication has advanced a lot, I however do not accept (nor have seen ) any product that can "repair" damage or lubricate without acting as a layer between the moving surfaces. That requires tolerances way beyond what can be achieved with standard materials in any production engine.

[Raul]

I also do not believe that it can "repair" major damage but if the lubrication has advanced a lot that means the components hopefully last longer. Also in case of major oil leak the the car could be driven home.
Here is another test drive without oil:
http://xado-shop.narod.ru/reports/eng/vysok.htm

[chinkostu]

Theres a lot of wear on those tappets!

[lexi]

I won't be buying it. I keep 5 litres of engine oil in my sump at all times. It is the best aid to smooth running you can get

[Raul]

I won't be buying it. I keep 5 litres of engine oil in my sump at all times. It is the best aid to smooth running you can get

2.0 hdi is bulletproof but we all know what happens to the turbos of the 1,6 hdi.

[elma]

Quality oil is my choice. The manufacturers all have a different blend of additives and detergents. Only in the case of cheap, underspec oil can I envisage a need for additives. Personally I'd rather buy quality oil I trust and use it as it comes. I'd also be concerned about the additives reacting poorly with the oil unless they had been tested fully with the brand I was using.

[Raul]

Quality oil is my choice. The manufacturers all have a different blend of additives and detergents. Only in the case of cheap, underspec oil can I envisage a need for additives. Personally I'd rather buy quality oil I trust and use it as it comes. I'd also be concerned about the additives reacting poorly with the oil unless they had been tested fully with the brand I was using.

From their home page:

"XADO is NOT an oil additive. Though we describe the XADO Gels as an additive XADO does NOT change the characteristics or viscosity of the oil in any way, unlike other oil additives and fuel treatment which do. However, we do use the oil to initially DELIVER XADO to the moving parts".


Yesterday I went and bought the gel meant for engine treatment. I squeezed in the first tube and drove home from the work that is about 80 km. So far I have not noticed anything. They say that on older diesels the tickover engine speed should rise but my car has a constant 1000 rpm. I am not sure but maybe the tickover speed on the xud is ecu controlled? Let s see what happens after the second and third tube.