Project lowrider
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Re: Project lowrider
I've seen failed front struts few times in my mechanic days, and i know the risks, which is why i dont need a lecture about it.
Do you think that im worried about my sump smashing to the ground it already has.
Do you think that im worried about my sump smashing to the ground it already has.
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Re: Project lowrider
Sorry Jeth, I wasn't meaning to lecture you.
I have an idea which might help, but I don't know if there is another issue (which I will come to). Fit a pair of strong rings per strut, one on top of the flange, and the other at the bottom, where the strut top flange would normally sit. These should help to spread the load to that originally designed. If the rings and bolts are strong enough then the safety issues should be addressed.
However, when the steering wheel is turned, the strut top moves around (but you know this). Obviously this was allowed for in the original design, but now, with the strut top mounted higher, I wonder if the strut is getting close to the sides of the cavity (possibly contacting and limiting the steering).
I have an idea which might help, but I don't know if there is another issue (which I will come to). Fit a pair of strong rings per strut, one on top of the flange, and the other at the bottom, where the strut top flange would normally sit. These should help to spread the load to that originally designed. If the rings and bolts are strong enough then the safety issues should be addressed.
However, when the steering wheel is turned, the strut top moves around (but you know this). Obviously this was allowed for in the original design, but now, with the strut top mounted higher, I wonder if the strut is getting close to the sides of the cavity (possibly contacting and limiting the steering).
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As we all have said, yup nice idea and great project! I like the look of my CX when its slammedJeth wrote:Why do people install air suspensions to cars? To lower it and to get it comfortable when wanted.citronut wrote:what is the point in having a hydraulic citroen and do away with what its about,
maybe you should chuck away the citroen suspension and swap it for pug 405, then lower that,
Whats the point of having 405 suspension when you can have hydraulics?
Im starting to feel that most of you think that if my citroen isn't comfortable, then i should drive something else
For christs sake i've modified a BX, which is REALLY suprising at my country and especially at my age (23), i've made it look like "me", yet you want me to swap it for a peugeot?
I really thought that people would've liked to see a BX which has been made something different, especially on a french car forum... Atleast i've kept it clean, and im not going to do any huge fiberglass bumpers or anything, keeping it somewhat original, inside and out, just lower. Why is that so bad?
Been there done that.try driving a 2CV with the suspension higher or lower than it is supposed to be
Your project just needs a bit more thought, you may be convincing yourself it is safe enough but the weight of the car is on the threads of those nuts and bolts. (car manufacturers would do it that way, if it was the away)
In your own experience and words you have seen failed struts, yet you have come up with something that could result with the same conclusion.
I don't care that your sump is bent or what colour your letter box is What I do care about, is the front of your car digging in the road causing you to loose control, best case senario you write it off without injury and the worst case sees a seemingly bright young lad and posibly others killed. That is what is so bad.. in my opinion anyways
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Oooooh! Thats Your CX! I remember seeing pictures years ago of it and Loving it!
Re OP, is there no way of a strong bracket that looks like the back of a speaker basket for want of a better expression, enlarge the original hole to fit but spread the load out as it should??
I love the look of low valvers, when i ran mine on the 17's i added a notch on the height controller in between low and normal to bring the height down nicely and tuck the back wheel in
pop over to http://www.bx16valve.co.uk/forum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for the home of valvers! (if the link doesn't work, take out the /forum as sometimes it redircts off randomly theres a link on the home page to the forum)
Re OP, is there no way of a strong bracket that looks like the back of a speaker basket for want of a better expression, enlarge the original hole to fit but spread the load out as it should??
I love the look of low valvers, when i ran mine on the 17's i added a notch on the height controller in between low and normal to bring the height down nicely and tuck the back wheel in
pop over to http://www.bx16valve.co.uk/forum" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for the home of valvers! (if the link doesn't work, take out the /forum as sometimes it redircts off randomly theres a link on the home page to the forum)
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Re: Project lowrider
Project has been sitting still for few months now, but this week im starting to fix it for summer drives.
To-do list:
- Replace drivers side brake caliper
- Fix bumpers from scratches etc
- Fix leaking water hose
- Change oil + filter
- Few minor hydraulic leaks
- Install a cover for sump to eliminate further damage
Here's another picture from NPS Big Meet 2012
Oh and here's my daily driver. It's dirty I know..
"only" 260miles on the clock
Fully stock 2.0HDi 110hp (and im keeping it that way)
Only modification done is changed original head unit for VDO Dayton (don't remember which, but sound is awesome compared to Kenwood KDC-BT6544UY i have in BX) and changed front speakers to Rainbow SL-C6.2
Doing some dampening on the front doors when i get the mood for it.
To-do list:
- Replace drivers side brake caliper
- Fix bumpers from scratches etc
- Fix leaking water hose
- Change oil + filter
- Few minor hydraulic leaks
- Install a cover for sump to eliminate further damage
Here's another picture from NPS Big Meet 2012
Oh and here's my daily driver. It's dirty I know..
"only" 260miles on the clock
Fully stock 2.0HDi 110hp (and im keeping it that way)
Only modification done is changed original head unit for VDO Dayton (don't remember which, but sound is awesome compared to Kenwood KDC-BT6544UY i have in BX) and changed front speakers to Rainbow SL-C6.2
Doing some dampening on the front doors when i get the mood for it.
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CGATCX25GTITURBO Whats the code/make of your chromaflare paint please?
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House of color Rage rings a bell?
I used to know from back in the day when it hit the UK scene, but a bit hazy now!
I used to know from back in the day when it hit the UK scene, but a bit hazy now!
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Looking at the House Of Kolors website it would appear to be Shimrin2 FX Kameleon blue to green. S2-FX51 code.
Cheers Timmo
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nah, it's the proper stuff. Done 13 years ago Dupont Chromalusion
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1998 XANTIA 19TD ESTATE
1987 BX19 GTI 8V
2012 Citroen DS3
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When it was painted 100 hours back to bare metal
look at the XM in for repair
these were taken in 2005 and somewhere between
sometimes it looks like a mirror
It has to been seen in the flesh really, the pictures don't do it justice
look at the XM in for repair
these were taken in 2005 and somewhere between
sometimes it looks like a mirror
It has to been seen in the flesh really, the pictures don't do it justice
Neil aka CGAT
1986 CX25 GTI TURBO 1 SERIES 2 'CGAT'
1998 XANTIA 19TD ESTATE
1987 BX19 GTI 8V
2012 Citroen DS3
1997 600 Bandit
2000 ZX12R from new
1989 CX GTI Turbo 62k miles in a barn since 2001, project started 2023.
1986 CX25 GTI TURBO 1 SERIES 2 'CGAT'
1998 XANTIA 19TD ESTATE
1987 BX19 GTI 8V
2012 Citroen DS3
1997 600 Bandit
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1989 CX GTI Turbo 62k miles in a barn since 2001, project started 2023.
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Indeed. It looks absolutely stunning in the flesh, magnificent.CGATCX25GTITURBO wrote:
It has to been seen in the flesh really, the pictures don't do it justice
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When done well, like yours, Looks the Nuts!! Used to ne an AX where I lived that had similar done, just not as well!!!
Used to Love working on the primera and Micra chromoflair when we had them in the garage for Prep!
Stunning though! Did you have a meguiars sticker on the rear 1/4 window at one stage?? Remember seeing it. In a mag back in the day with a snippet from a show??
Used to Love working on the primera and Micra chromoflair when we had them in the garage for Prep!
Stunning though! Did you have a meguiars sticker on the rear 1/4 window at one stage?? Remember seeing it. In a mag back in the day with a snippet from a show??
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not had any stickers in it, maybe a few plaques from the rallies we had attended in France ETC.Timmo wrote:When done well, like yours, Looks the Nuts!! Used to ne an AX where I lived that had similar done, just not as well!!!
Used to Love working on the primera and Micra chromoflair when we had them in the garage for Prep!
Stunning though! Did you have a meguiars sticker on the rear 1/4 window at one stage?? Remember seeing it. In a mag back in the day with a snippet from a show??
Neil aka CGAT
1986 CX25 GTI TURBO 1 SERIES 2 'CGAT'
1998 XANTIA 19TD ESTATE
1987 BX19 GTI 8V
2012 Citroen DS3
1997 600 Bandit
2000 ZX12R from new
1989 CX GTI Turbo 62k miles in a barn since 2001, project started 2023.
1986 CX25 GTI TURBO 1 SERIES 2 'CGAT'
1998 XANTIA 19TD ESTATE
1987 BX19 GTI 8V
2012 Citroen DS3
1997 600 Bandit
2000 ZX12R from new
1989 CX GTI Turbo 62k miles in a barn since 2001, project started 2023.
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HmMmmmmn, sure it had a caption about NOS too?
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might be mixing mine upTimmo wrote:HmMmmmmn, sure it had a caption about NOS too?
I think this one had NOS stickers in it
Neil aka CGAT
1986 CX25 GTI TURBO 1 SERIES 2 'CGAT'
1998 XANTIA 19TD ESTATE
1987 BX19 GTI 8V
2012 Citroen DS3
1997 600 Bandit
2000 ZX12R from new
1989 CX GTI Turbo 62k miles in a barn since 2001, project started 2023.
1986 CX25 GTI TURBO 1 SERIES 2 'CGAT'
1998 XANTIA 19TD ESTATE
1987 BX19 GTI 8V
2012 Citroen DS3
1997 600 Bandit
2000 ZX12R from new
1989 CX GTI Turbo 62k miles in a barn since 2001, project started 2023.