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Xantia Front Wheel Bearing

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One of my front wheel bearing has been grumbling for a while, but has been getting more noticeable this week, maybe since I replaced the suspension arm bushes, the new bushes are stiffer and transmitting the noise more effectively.

It seems loudest at 50MPH but is quiet on a RH bend. But which one is it :?:
RichardW wrote:"if it is a wheel bearing, the noise will get louder when the weight is thrown on to the side with the faulty one."

Since this a Xantia, not always! I had one go that I was convinced was the N/S/F, based on the above. But when I took it to the gargae, it turned out to be the O/S/F - ie it went quiet when loaded. :twisted: Got to love these Xantias 8) Incidentally that was only noisy above 30 mph,
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Mike, if one's on the way out than both will be. Swap both...

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jack one wheel off the graund whilst on normal suspension height,
choke the rear wheels, let the hand brake off and stick it in second gear with the engine running, you should be able to determine which side has gone after trying both one side at a time though,

if you can't work it out doing this, the only sure way is remove front pads and drive shaft from each hub, then you will feel the one with bearing on its way out,

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I've always done this on a 2 post lift, so obviously both wheels are free, so you could use a trolley jack and lift the front of the car for convenience, instead of one at a time.
7 times out of 10 it's the other to the one you think it is !
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xantia_v6 wrote: ... It seems loudest at 50MPH but is quiet on a RH bend. But which one is it :?: ...
Usually when the wheel is under load (while bend), the defective wheel bearing becomes louder :) but this is not a rule. In mine front left behaved like that and now front right is doing the same and I have already booked next Wednesday for replacement. I think it has served very well, considering that clock shows over 230 :roll: =D> and it's still original factory assembly.
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citronut wrote:jack one wheel off the graund whilst on normal suspension height,
choke the rear wheels, let the hand brake off and stick it in second gear with the engine running
Bugger that :shock: despite the differential you're a braver man than me Malcolm.
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DickieG wrote:
citronut wrote:jack one wheel off the graund whilst on normal suspension height,
choke the rear wheels, let the hand brake off and stick it in second gear with the engine running
Bugger that :shock: despite the differential you're a braver man than me Malcolm.
Bugger that seconded :)
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HDI wrote:I've always done this on a 2 post lift, so obviously both wheels are free, so you could use a trolley jack and lift the front of the car for convenience, instead of one at a time.
7 times out of 10 it's the other to the one you think it is !
the reason its the other 7 times out of 10 is you are spinning both wheel up together,
the idea that i use with 99% success is im spinning one wheel at a time under controlled condition's,
whilst sitting in the car, not to much RPM and the other wheel firmly on the ground,
this way you will almost every time hear the noisy bearing,

CitroJim wrote:
DickieG wrote:
citronut wrote:jack one wheel off the graund whilst on normal suspension height,
choke the rear wheels, let the hand brake off and stick it in second gear with the engine running
Bugger that :shock: despite the differential you're a braver man than me Malcolm.
Bugger that seconded :)
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the way the diff works the wheel of the ground spins and the one on the ground does not,

imagine having one drive wheel in a muddy ditch and the other on a solid surface, the car wont go anywhere as the wheel in the mud will just spin,

although i do agree this test has to be done with all/any dangers in mind, and as long as the lifted wheel does not touch the ground there should not be any problems ,

i would not use this method on a 4X4 :shock: :-D :twisted:

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I fully understand how a differential works but even then the static wheel will be attempting to pull the car off of it's supports, I might have considered this if the handbrake worked on the back wheels but on a Xantia, no thanks, I'll leave this idea for you.
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citronut wrote:
HDI wrote:I've always done this on a 2 post lift, so obviously both wheels are free, so you could use a trolley jack and lift the front of the car for convenience, instead of one at a time.
7 times out of 10 it's the other to the one you think it is !
the reason its the other 7 times out of 10 is you are spinning both wheel up together,
the idea that i use with 99% success is im spinning one wheel at a time under controlled condition's,
whilst sitting in the car, not to much RPM and the other wheel firmly on the ground,
this way you will almost every time hear the noisy bearing,



regards malcolm
What I meant was the the one you think it is when driving the car. The faulty bearing is immediately obvious with both wheels driven on a lift or jacked up.
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i personally don't find you can determine for sure with both front wheels off the ground and spinning,

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It is probably more easily identified in the air on a lift. Literally you can go to each side and the offending bearing just leaps out at you :wink:
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