It turns out that the hand brake caliper mech is seized and as a result the return spring is no longer man enough to cope. The brake now sticks despite now being freed off. I'd like to restore the spring effect but wager that it can't be bought separate tho I will investigate.
Any tips? The mot is in a few weeks.
Also the rh cable is routed wrong but can sort at the time.
xantia hand brake issue
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xantia hand brake issue
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Re: Xantia hand brake issue
Graeme,
When you say hand brake caliper is seized, do you mean the where the cable fits onto the brake caliper itself.
Kenny
When you say hand brake caliper is seized, do you mean the where the cable fits onto the brake caliper itself.
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Re: Xantia hand brake issue
Graeme,
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See attached photo and confirm if it is the 'hook' which the cable goes into.
Kenny
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See attached photo and confirm if it is the 'hook' which the cable goes into.
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'Old Katy'
previous convictions: totaling 52litres of LHM in one go:
1968 ID19B 'Old Polly' Stellar white
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker Silver
1992 XM 2.0 SEi Turbo Manual Anthracite Grey
1982 CX 20 Pallas 'Old Goldy'
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1977 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Aphrodite' Regatta Blue
1982 GSA Pallas SE Silver Pearl
1980 CX 2000 Reflex Vallelunga Red
1978 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Prometheus' Midnight blue
1984 BX 14E 'Cecil the slugmobile' Maroon
1987 Fiat Panda 'the mighty panda' - x 98
Re: Xantia hand brake issue
It's the lever-actuator that the cable end locates in. It sticks terribly and has been since before I bought it last August. Now the thing is freed off but the spring has lost its tension. Sorry, couldn't view the picture.
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Re: Xantia hand brake issue
So if you disconnect the cable and use some grips to move the lever the cable end sits in, it sticks wherever you set it?
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'Old Katy'
previous convictions: totaling 52litres of LHM in one go:
1968 ID19B 'Old Polly' Stellar white
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker Silver
1992 XM 2.0 SEi Turbo Manual Anthracite Grey
1982 CX 20 Pallas 'Old Goldy'
1993 XM 2.1 SD Auto Light blue
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker light Blue
1982 BX 16 TRS 'Cyril' Vallelunga Red
1995 Xantia 1.9 D SX Auto Dark green
1977 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Aphrodite' Regatta Blue
1982 GSA Pallas SE Silver Pearl
1980 CX 2000 Reflex Vallelunga Red
1978 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Prometheus' Midnight blue
1984 BX 14E 'Cecil the slugmobile' Maroon
1987 Fiat Panda 'the mighty panda' - x 98
Re: Xantia hand brake issue
It sticks anywhere from half way to rest position. It's freed off now but the spring is duff but it will return the lever from fully applied to about 4mm off. Needs grips to pull it further and so leaves the cable end slack when handbrake released.
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Re: Xantia hand brake issue
Graeme,
There is a service kit available:
KIT EMERG BRAKE
95 667 819
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02 - 5 DOOR SALOON AND TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE
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- 5 DOOR SALOON AND DIESEL XUD9 SINCE RPO 06902
02 - 5 DOOR SALOON AND TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE
02 - 5 DOOR SALOON AND DIESEL TURBO XUD9SD
Both priced around £68 - might be easier / cheaper to get a re-con caliper....
There is a service kit available:
KIT EMERG BRAKE
95 667 819
- 5 DOOR SALOON AND DIESEL XUD9 UNTIL RPO 06901
02 - 5 DOOR SALOON AND TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE
4427 96
- 5 DOOR SALOON AND DIESEL XUD9 SINCE RPO 06902
02 - 5 DOOR SALOON AND TURBO DIESEL XUD9TE
02 - 5 DOOR SALOON AND DIESEL TURBO XUD9SD
Both priced around £68 - might be easier / cheaper to get a re-con caliper....
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1993 Xantia 1.9 TD VSX Mk1 Sinker A.K.A Slugmobile 13'
'Old Katy'
previous convictions: totaling 52litres of LHM in one go:
1968 ID19B 'Old Polly' Stellar white
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker Silver
1992 XM 2.0 SEi Turbo Manual Anthracite Grey
1982 CX 20 Pallas 'Old Goldy'
1993 XM 2.1 SD Auto Light blue
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker light Blue
1982 BX 16 TRS 'Cyril' Vallelunga Red
1995 Xantia 1.9 D SX Auto Dark green
1977 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Aphrodite' Regatta Blue
1982 GSA Pallas SE Silver Pearl
1980 CX 2000 Reflex Vallelunga Red
1978 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Prometheus' Midnight blue
1984 BX 14E 'Cecil the slugmobile' Maroon
1987 Fiat Panda 'the mighty panda' - x 98
Re: Xantia hand brake issue
Blimey, thanks for the info Richard
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Re: Xantia hand brake issue
Did you check the condition and amount of the grease under the big black rubber protector cap?aerodynamica wrote:... Now the thing is freed off but the spring has lost its tension. ...
It is fixed with a cable tier. Cut the cable tier and lift up the cap. Clean the remaining grease.
There might be some rust if water or humidity has gone through. The spring will be seen
and check the condition of it. It should move easily by moving the lever by hand.
After cleaning, fill with new grease.
Edit: and a pic where the rubber cap is seen.
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Re: Xantia hand brake issue
Similar handbrake arrangement on the XM.
Temporary fix for same handbrake cable problem was to fit the cable end through a long strong return spring.
John
Temporary fix for same handbrake cable problem was to fit the cable end through a long strong return spring.
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1993 Xantia 1.9 TD VSX Mk1 Sinker A.K.A Slugmobile 13'
'Old Katy'
previous convictions: totaling 52litres of LHM in one go:
1968 ID19B 'Old Polly' Stellar white
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker Silver
1992 XM 2.0 SEi Turbo Manual Anthracite Grey
1982 CX 20 Pallas 'Old Goldy'
1993 XM 2.1 SD Auto Light blue
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker light Blue
1982 BX 16 TRS 'Cyril' Vallelunga Red
1995 Xantia 1.9 D SX Auto Dark green
1977 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Aphrodite' Regatta Blue
1982 GSA Pallas SE Silver Pearl
1980 CX 2000 Reflex Vallelunga Red
1978 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Prometheus' Midnight blue
1984 BX 14E 'Cecil the slugmobile' Maroon
1987 Fiat Panda 'the mighty panda' - x 98
Re: Xantia hand brake issue
Thanks guys, yes I've had the rubber cap off. It has been plus gassed to free off but needs packed with new grease.
The extra spring idea; is it a coil spring fitted between the lever and cable stop like on a CX? Cable travels through the spring?
The extra spring idea; is it a coil spring fitted between the lever and cable stop like on a CX? Cable travels through the spring?
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Re: Xantia hand brake issue
Yes.
Was done by one of the club members to solve the MOT fail on insecure cable problem.
John
Was done by one of the club members to solve the MOT fail on insecure cable problem.
John
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Re: Xantia hand brake issue
i had the same problem, pull cable out get some pliers on the hook and move it back and forward a lot that should un-seize it, if not get on ebay there are some caliper repair kits on there, if not a second hand break caliper, should get one for under £35 easy to fit and bleed