R/O/S brake pipe

[RichardW]

Estate has bigger rear brakes, and the arm is different to accomodate the larger trailing arm bearing.....

[KennyW]

Thanks Richard,

Typical Citroen.

Kenny

[davetherave]

Think we definatly need a flaring tool location map, like the lexia one!

[CitroJim]

Think we definatly need a flaring tool location map, like the lexia one!

Good idea Dave DickieG suggests a Sphere tester map too so do both at the same time perhaps..

Doubtless repipes on Xantas and XMs will be a more recurring issue as they age so having some members about with the kit will be good...

I'm toying with the idea of taking a risk on the flaring tool mentioned earlier in this thread...

[davetherave]

That certainly does look like a good piece of kit Jim very good for flares that dont have to be done in situ.
Good idea with the pressure tester locations as well, Could be a useful resource.

[myglaren]

Anyone with sphere testers and/or flaring tools that would use them on behalf of other FCF members please stick your details in this thread please

[xmexclusive]

Lets start the hydraulic list going.

Sphere tester - genuine Citroen.

Flaring tool - Automec with 3.5mm & 4.5mm dies.
I am currently negotiating for the 6.35mm & 10mm dies to complete the Citroen set.

Better put me on the Lexia list as well.

Hi Jim
I rejected that tool while deciding what to buy when Pliaedes could not supply me with a 4.5mm flaring tool.
I borrowed one from my local Indy and was not happy with the results particularly on car.
For on car I found that screw operated is virtually essential.
I intend to make up a small frame to be able to use the Automec easily on car.
If you want to co-operate on that then we make two and you only need to buy Automec dies.

John

[citronut]

i have a hand held 3.5 screw type, but i find it not to be 100% successful on repairs to steel pipes on or off the car, even if i clean the powder coating from tend of the pipe,

i also have a pile of mostly 3.5 OE new old stock pipes which are mostly BX, but obviously will fit most other hydraulic citroens depending on pipe length required

regards malcolm

[Diabolical]

Another option could be this Guy on Ebay link

I going to need to re-pipe a far bit on my CX Safari, I haven't contacted but seems good idea for time saving.

Also Flaring tools are not cheap Link
David

[citronut]

Another option could be this Guy on Ebay link

I going to need to re-pipe a far bit on my CX Safari, I haven't contacted but seems good idea for time saving.

Also Flaring tools are not cheap Link
David

SNAP

Found this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CITROEN-DS-BX ... I%26otn%3D" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Possible problem saver. Maybe worth a mention on forum site or if any members have used this person report back.

Kenny

regards malcolm

[CitroJim]

Hi Jim
I rejected that tool while deciding what to buy when Pliaedes could not supply me with a 4.5mm flaring tool.
I borrowed one from my local Indy and was not happy with the results particularly on car.
For on car I found that screw operated is virtually essential.
I intend to make up a small frame to be able to use the Automec easily on car.
If you want to co-operate on that then we make two and you only need to buy Automec dies.

John

Excellent John, thank you... I will take very much your advice and experience on the flaring tool in question and the best route to follow.

Have you details of the Automec Dies?

I'd be very happy to join in with you on the frames for them. Perfect!

[xmexclusive]

Hi Jim

Will PM you to sort out the way forward with this.
Out of interest in the ebay advert photo for that flaring tool did you notice the Pliaedes flare tool in the vice.
Made me wonder which tool actually made the sample flared pipe in the photo.

John

[CitroJim]

Thanks John, that'll be wonderful

Out of interest in the ebay advert photo for that flaring tool did you notice the Pliaedes flare tool in the vice.

Yes, and I've noticed it in the past and could never work out why... I know the Pleiades flare tools do make some very good flares indeed.

[HDI Dave]

Thinking of ordering a pair of these pipes from Kennys link,cheers pal.

might as well do both sides while I'm under..mot's in 2 months anyway.

Just to be sure,(this cit suspension still baffles me sometimes )

I'll have to de pressurize the car,as in bung it on lowest setting,and then open the screw/bolt a tad in the engine bay?

Won't this make access even more..innaccessable!

Which screw/bolt am I looking at exactly pic?

Thinking of doing it on my ramps,or is axle stands more viable? ( sure I've heard the rear arm might need dropping? )

Cheers, Dave.

[RichardW]

Dave

There's no need to depressure the suspension, since you are not working on it - although I did depressure as I was expecting it take all weekend (it did, as the calipers were well rusted and I dids pads and discs at the same time) and I didn't want it settling on the stands when I wasn't expecting it! I did one on axle stands no problem - it's easy enough to feed the pipe in over the arm if you use kunifer. Remove the clamps at the spirals, drill out the rivets, and refit them to the new pipes with small bolts. Worst bit i had was that I couldn't get the stub of the pipe out of the K splitter on the car - and had to remove the splitter - with plenty of trepidation that the union on the car pipe would not survive! I got the stub out in the end, but at one time, only way I could think of was to burn the seal out.... Note that if you do depressure you will need to put the car back on at least one wheel to get some weight on it, or the suspension won't repressure, and bleeding the brakes will be a bit tricky!